Well, let’s start with the last part first:
- “HE (?) will glorify me by taking from what is mine...”
The ‘He’ is forced, designed to make
IT seem like a person.
All righteous eternity agrees that the Greek did not designate a gender explicitly here. The word, “ekeinos” is offered by STRONGS as:
- “that one (or neut. that thing)” (1565)
Literally, therefore, ‘IT’.
But more importantly, how, if the Holy Spirit IS UNFETTERED ALMIGHTY
GOD, (ha ha ha...
EQUAL TO GOD!! - oh boy..., the mind boggles at the senseless logic!) that Jesus has, GIVEN TO HIM (Jesus... who himself, by trinity, is also UNFETTERED ALMIGHTY GOD!) all knowledge and power that the Father has?
Howbeit Trinitarians cannot agree with the scriptures they claim they gain their knowledge from, that the Father GRANTED Jesus TO HAVE these things. Being GRANTED means gifted something that one did not have previously - yet trinity claims Jesus had it all along...
We can see from this that there is a transition FROM the Father, to the Son, and onto the Holy Spirit. Yet trinity claims that the three are co-equal in almighty omniscience.
How does the Holy Spirit not have what the Father has...
How does the Holy Spirit not have what Jesus has - after Jesus is gifted it by the Father.
Is this another example of [a] God who veils his power? A new trinity teaching... my guess, yes! Since trinity modifies itself as each of its fallacies is uncovered.
And so the start... partly covered already:
- “Everything that belongs to the Father is mine!”
Have I not gone over this already... it is true that trinity ideology tries the patience of the Saints. The frustration of constantly expressing the same truth to Trinitarians is designed to wear down the truth speaker! Fortunately, I love expressing the truth. Each rebuff strengthens my resolve in the belief that trinity is a fallacy ELSE the offender would have agreed rather than attempt yet another disingenuous response that another trinitarian will say, “Well, I don’t know who you’ve been talking to BUT I DON’T BELIEVE THAT!”... see, there it is... Trinity is as false as the three persons are one God that it falsely declares. Each trinitarian declares HIS OWN fallacy hence its hard to pin down any one of them... or they simply go underground away from the debate so as not to imbibe the truth only to resurface again elsewhere with their same false doctrine or a modified version..,YET we know that:
‘All power and authority has been granted to me, Jesus said. But nonetheless, ‘All’ does not include the SEAT OF POWER, the throne of God. And this is illustrated by the two themes I outlined: Joseph and Mordeciah. And... written in the scriptures:
- “For he ‘has put everything under his feet.’ Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.” (1 Cor 15:27)
Need anymore be said?
Do you think that is a true statement and that even when Jesus hands back the Kingdom, it still belongs to Jesus?
I’m glad to see you asking these questions... No, it does not belong to Jesus. You cannot be GIVEN something for a period of time to perform a function, and then after performing the function, hand the thing BACK and yet STILL have it as YOURS. Nothing goes such. What happened with Jesus is that LATER, after the world and heaven is TESTED as to its conformity to the holy order OF GOD, Jesus SITS DOWN TO JUDGE the WORLD (not Heaven) and selects those whom pleases him to GRANT THEM ETERNAL LIFE IN HIS KINGDOM (the world - creation) that the Father then GRANTS TO HIM, thus fulfilling the prophesy of the Son REIGNING OVER CREATION. Nowhere does ANY SCRIPTURE claim that Jesus REIGNS over HEAVEN... THE Father REMAINS THE RULER.
Heaven is an endless spirit realm.
Creation is a ‘
room’ in the
MANSION of his Father. Scriptures tells us he went to PREPARE this room for his followers FROM within his Fathers mansion. Nowhere does it say that Jesus rules the mansion of heaven.
So why do you think Jesus hands back the Kingdom and become subject to He God and Father?
Why did Joseph hand back the rulership by the seal (equiv: Holy Spirit) of Egypt to Pharoah after Joseph fulfilled his mission to oversee the famine in Egypt?
Why did Mordeciah hand back the signet ring of king Xerxes (equiv: Holy Spirit) to king Xerxes after modecaih fulfilled the day of Purim?
The answers are the same because the prophesies are the same. If I give you my car for you to deliver a parcel... and when you deliver that parcel... you GIVE HAND IT BACK to Him who handed it to you in the first place....!! It is not Yours to retain. The giver then REWARDS you with a worthy gift for what could be termed a monumental task. Perhaps, I bug you your OWN smaller car as a reward now I see that you are dutiful, righteous, careful, did not claim my limousine was yours personally (gloat!!) but used it exactly as I instructed you... you brought it back in a better condition than when I handed it to you... therefore I grant you YOUR OWN CAR knowing you will use it as I guided you with my own car: Jesus will govern the created world just as his Father taught him and he demonstrated in bringing heaven and earth under his feet.
Note: Jesus rules on the throne of David. This is a spiritual position OVER CREATION... an earthly realm... and consequently Jesus’ rulership organisation will be of HUMAN GOVERNERS:
- “The world (not Heaven) to come will by no means be ruled by angels” (Hebrew 2:5)
Since we know that currently holy angels are governers under YHWH over creation linking to the angels (now called ‘Fallen’ or Deminic) who ‘Left their station’ to follow the fallen Angel named as ‘[the] Satan’.