firedragon
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Neither male nor female. But Jesus said that when you pray say "Our Father..."
so that settles the issue. Your faith shouldn't be a shallow, fashion centered
woke ideology.
Irrelevant. But thanks.
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Neither male nor female. But Jesus said that when you pray say "Our Father..."
so that settles the issue. Your faith shouldn't be a shallow, fashion centered
woke ideology.
I simply get more out of praying to female entities, ...
...Jeremiah was dealing with people who wouldn't stop burning incense to the Queen of Heaven. The Idolaters essentially said, "when we pray to the Queen of Heaven she helps us and our lives are great. When we stop burning incense to her and just pray to Yahweh, everything falls apart and we are afflicted in every way" (same message just a different choice of words)...
...Scripture says that if a man rapes a Virgin, the Virgin has to marry her rapist. That has to be hell reliving the same traumatic event over and over again for the rest of one's life like that...
...Which Religion has a female entity creating Scriptures that say...
...Lets not forget , God said he would harden the heart of Pharoah to not let the Hebrews out of slavery. Then he sent the Angel of death to kill babies and children (all the first born of Egypt) because Pharoah had hardness of heart, that God made clear he was responsible for in the first place. Is anything more sickening?...
...Yahweh ordered that that people caught working on Saturday should be stoned to death.
Death by stoning would be a scary and often painful way to die. What would we think if there was a regime now a days that killed people for working on the wrong day of the week? Wouldn't we say that is as bad as terrorist groups like ISIS and their policies (which have their roots in Yahweh)...
...At least Jesus totally contradicted all the Scriptures...
The goddesses that are being discussed are all based on the unconditional love of the mother. In Christianity this is personified by Mother Mary. This is contrasted to the conditional love of the father, as expressed by the tough love male deities. Love does not have to be sugar and spice, to be love. It can be hot peppers and horseradish.
God the father set conditions for receiving reward and/or avoiding punishment. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. With imposed fear, one develops an awareness of the imposed cause and affect, and can learn to become rational and then wise to cultural and natural cause and affect.
The Goddess or mother acts like her adult children are forever her babies and toddlers, loving them unconditionally, even if they form bad habits, that can become regressive later in life. Hitler's mother loved him with unconditional love. Did that help justify his bad behavior? In psychology the mother often gets the blame often due to the pitfalls of unconditional love getting the better of reason.
Unconditional love does not help adults know the optimized path, since even the regressive path will get a "good job" salute. Unconditional love may even involve lying to help spare feelings. The child who is a poor athlete, may be told he/she is good, to keep him/her positive and happy. Positive, happy and secure is the real goal of unconditional love. But the details can form bad habits due to loving acceptance.
Unconditional love is good for babies and children, since they are basically harmless and less willful. They are impulsive and learning to spread their wings. It is useful to not prejudge, but to encourage their creative and instinctive drives, even if not optimized in terms of end results. The real goals are positive attitudes and willpower. A happy person will have a happier life.
But as humanity evolved beyond its childhood; fall from paradise, and will power becomes stronger; adolescence of humanity, the cause and affect between behavior and outcome needed to become clear, since the impact of questionable, but condoned adult actions, can extend way beyond yourself.
Civilization evolved into conditional love, with the male patriarchies replacing the matriarchies. It is one thing for a 1 year old child to rough pat the cat, but it is another thing for a 18 year old male, who was coddled after hitting the cat, to scale this up to hitting all cats very hard. If we gave that young man unconditional love, culture would be in trouble. A culture of selfish mother's boys, who can do nothing wrong, would be harmful to everyone. Conditional love targeted these perverted and selfish mother's boys and made them men; patriarchies.
Consider the latest fad, driven by free market forces in the medical industries; gender choice. This is being driven by the Goddess, so to speak. It is nonsense and regressive, but it is receiving unconditional love. It is almost socially taboo to set conditions and resist unconditional acceptance. The goal is to create a future need for goods and service, since the unnatural behavior that will result in long term social problems. The goddess will win the battle, but will lose the war.
This will backfire in the end and cause harm that has to be mopped up, for a price. Then conditions will be set for the future. The alternative is to take a conditional love approach, up front, and learn to be rational about this, even if it hurts feelings, but saves the natural soul. We are no longer in the infancy of civilization. There is no need to repeat the mistakes of the distant past. This is not new.
It's because she's not God. She's a human being. A very holy woman, but still human.It is however notable that the Mother Mary's role in Christianity is one that is explicitly subservient to both the Father and the Son - in fact she is not even considered a divine aspect in her own right. Christianity, in this aspect, is mythologically and metaphysically centered around maledom and patriarchy.
Like I said in the other thread, it's obvious why they're not absolving you. They're probably not happy you're taking Communion in such a blatantly unrepentant and apostate spiritual state, too. Now, you can believe and do what you please, but according to the Church, you're committing mortal sin.I have spoken to priests about this many times in the confession booth. There is a priest at the Cathedral of Saint Paul who won't even absolve me for my sins and tells me to leave the confession booth.
What are priests going to say to help. God is a sadist and a bigot in the Bible and the Bible is the whole basis for the Catholic Liturgy and the Catechism speaks of eternal torture for those who die in mortal sin.
Enough said!
Well, this isn't exactly something to go tooting horns about. If the accounts are to be trusted, then it is EXTREMELY EASY to be more kind or rational than Yahweh. I mean, let's be honest here... any old squirrel from the backyard qualifies.Queens of Heaven have been historically far more kind and rational than Yahweh!
Can you give some example, what do you get?
Please show the scripture where is that said?
Perhaps it doesn’t matter much, but I think it is good to notice, if the person was already married, the rapist would have deserved death penalty. So, the only case where this law could have been applied would have been, if a virgin rapes a virgin. I would assume that would be quite rare in that society.
Do the female deities say anything at all? By what I know, they are only pretty images without anything wise to say or do. And that is why I think they are irrelevant.
In this case I think it is good to notice, pharaohs heart hardened every time things went well. When pharaoh saw things are again well, he thought he doesn’t really have to let the slaves go. And when things were difficult, his heart was softened and he thought that he lets the Jews go. I think it would not have been good to keep the plagues going eternally just to keep pharaohs heart soft.
When nation doesn’t keep its rules, the nation will destroy itself. Those who didn’t obey the rules, didn’t really care what happens to the nation. I think America is nowadays a good example of what happens when law is not kept.
I don’t think there is any good argument for that. Jesus didn’t do that.
I hope so....I just don't know.It seems to me, that you have proven that the Divine Father is GOOD. And en passant it would also prove that God did not actively "do" the violent "acts" as pictured in Scriptures like the Bible and the Koran. So, I guess it must have been the imagination/minds of the writers of those Scriptures
Jeremiah 44
16 “As for the word that you have spoken to us in the name of the Lord, lwe will not listen to you. mBut we will do everything that we have vowed, make offerings to nthe queen of heaven oand pour out drink offerings to her, pas we did, both we and our fathers, our kings and our officials, in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem. For then we had plenty of food, and prospered, and saw no disaster. nthe queen of heaven and pouring out drink offerings to her, we have lacked everything qand have been consumed by the sword and by famine.”
When I pray to female entities lots of coincidences and signs take place, my anger goes away, I feel peace, I want to do good deeds, I don't blaspheme as much, I feel healing mentally, emotionally, and Spiritually, and I have no hatred for female entities.
When I pray to Yahweh I feel bitter, arid, no signs really, no coincidences, and I shout blasphemies because he isn't being faithful to his word and very frusterating.
...And Jesus said "Love your enemies" and "Love" sums up the entire law and the Prophets. That stands in sharp, intense, and ridiculously blatant obvious contradiction to what the Old Testament teaches.
...Not to mention, God is in Scripture an obvious mass-murdering bigot who is full of hate and the epitome of unjust , because he says that people will be condemned to a lake of fire and tortured forever just for not believing in him.
That could all be true, and if something is Adharmic its useful to 'condemn' itI hope so....I just don't know.
It could be the Divine Father is at war with the Divine Mother or like they have gotten a divorce equivalent.
It could be that they are married, they just argue and fight on many issues and I'm not going to side with the Father.
But I must condemn the evil that Yahweh is said to have done in Scripture.
I never said I had hatred for female entities. I said I have no hatred for female entities. I do struggle with hatred for Yahweh who is depicted as a Father, a male.Thanks, I don't think that is the same as what you said.
Why are you angry? Why have you hatred for female entities? Why do you think God is not faithful?
I disagree with that. Love doesn't mean everything is accepted. It means one cares and the Old Testament is teaches what it means to care others, for example don't steal, don't murder...
The reason for judgment is that people are evil and unrighteous. And I don't see any reason to think God is unjust.
This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the light, and doesn't come to the light, lest his works would be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God."
John 3:19-21
THat Bible verse I gave you had some of it cut out. they said that when they stopped burning incense to the Queen of Heaven they lacked everything and were consumed by the sword. Just google Jeremiah 44Thanks, I don't think that is the same as what you said.
Why are you angry? Why have you hatred for female entities? Why do you think God is not faithful?
I disagree with that. Love doesn't mean everything is accepted. It means one cares and the Old Testament is teaches what it means to care others, for example don't steal, don't murder...
The reason for judgment is that people are evil and unrighteous. And I don't see any reason to think God is unjust.
This is the judgment, that the light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the light, and doesn't come to the light, lest his works would be exposed. But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his works may be revealed, that they have been done in God."
John 3:19-21
Good reason not to follow the shallow fashions of the ancient men who wrote the Bible in my opinion.Your faith shouldn't be a shallow, fashion centered... ideology.
Good reason not to follow the shallow fashions of the ancient men who wrote the Bible in my opinion.
I disagree, the Jews did not reject the principles of the Bible, I think you are just picking on selected groups of Israelites who rejected the biblical "Prophets" whilst ignoring the general trend of the victors towards Judaism.And the clever thing about the bible is that it was carried down through the generations by
people who essentially rejected its tenants
I disagree, the Jews did not reject the principles of the Bible, I think you are just picking on selected groups of Israelites who rejected the biblical "Prophets" whilst ignoring the general trend of the victors towards Judaism.
In my opinion.
They were defeated by pagans that were superior in the military department, that is all in my opinion.Then why is the bible so CONDEMNING of the Jewish people?
Moses said none of the Exodus people will enter the Promised Land, and that
the Jews won't keep their Promised Land.
Why were the Jews given into the hand of their enemies, or sent into captivity,
the second time for nearly 2,000 years - with terrible persecutions?