Let’s talk Victim Blaming
Ok now that you’ve click on my thread and fell for my trap (mwahahaha) or maybe you really do wanna talk victim blaming, let’s get to it.
I want to start off by stating my stance on the criminals (abusers, rapists, etc.) and the victims, my official and outward public opinion is that I never blame the victim for the sole purpose of letting the criminals know that this will NEVER EVER be tolerated nor ever give them a precedent to try and fall back on. Now, with that pc junk out of the way, let’s get to the fun stuff. I will play out 2 different scenarios with my opinion at the end, I would encourage people to join in.
Scenario 1:
A random lady goes jogging a few times week, same days at the same time, her creepy neighbor is constantly watching and stalking her, he knows when she’s home alone and pretty much knows her schedule. He devises a plan and one day rapes, when he’s done he threatens to kill her if she ever reports him. Unfortunately, he ends up committing this crime 2 more times before she finally calls the authorities and he gets thrown in jail.
Even though she could have reported him after the first instance but, there was enough fear (for her life and possibly others that lived with her) and cause for her not do so. Now this unfortunately, happened 2 more times before she finally reported him.
Let’s look at the criminal and the victim separately for a bit. The rapist got what he wanted, I highly doubt any person can defend the rapist in this case so I won’t elaborate any further. The victim got raped, traumatized, physically and mentally messed up as well as a bunch of other “scars” for the rest of her life, the victim was 100% a loser in this situation. She did nothing to deserve it, she could not escape it, she did not encourage it nor have the power to stop it.
In this scenario, I blame the victim 0% and 100% on the rapists.
Scenario 2:
A female personal trainer is training a famous athlete (for those wondering this scenario is loosely based off Antonio Brown’s case), after training him for a few months or even a year, one day she claims that on 3 separate occasions he exploited her and sexually assaulted her as she claims he used manipulation to bring her in to his world and get her name out there (among other athletes) as a trainer, where should would profit in return. I guess they would both profit in their own way. And for sake of this scenario, let’s not assume she only claims this happened, let’s go ahead and say this 100% happened, he 100% sexually assaulted her on 3 separate occasions.
Let’s look at the criminal and the victim separately once more. Let’s start with the “criminal”, while yes, he did possibly abuse his power as a famous athlete (and for sake of this scenario only) yes, he did sexually assault her 3 different times and yes, he did understand by getting sexual favors he would in turn “make her famous” among other athletes. I could add more but you get the idea.
Ok now to the “victim”, is she really a victim? Let’s look and think about this logically, after the first sexual assault, she must have gone home and thought about what happened, right? She must have recalled how weak and abused she felt, right? I mean for crying out loud she must have at the very least thought about what they both did to end up in that situation. Ok now that she spent all night or a few days thinning about it, we would assume if it truly were sexual assault, she would either 1) quit 2) report it to the cops or 3) Have a plan in place to make sure this doesn’t happen again. I am 100% fine if she chose option 3 since, it may or may not have really been that bad (I don’t know) and I don’t want to lose my job over it.
I am 100% fine with always giving the “victim” a pass the first time things like this happen because they could have been caught off guard and just went along with whatever was going on out of fear. Fine, I get it the world is a cruel place and sometimes crap happens. So far she is 100% innocent in my book. But, that’s not where it stop, she went back again (remember she claims 3 separate occasions) so she gets “sexually assaulted” again all while still holding out for hopes that she will get famous among other athletes and be brought in to her “abusers” world and all the bling bling that goes along with it.
The first time it happened we gave her a pass for the reasons stated above, what about the 2nd and 3rd time? Why not report him and sue him after the 2nd time? Why let it happen 3 times? Is she really a victim or just some “gold digging” modern day prostitute hoping to get famous? This is the day and age of social media and the metoo movement, why not come out after the 2nd time it happened? We all know that today whether allegations are true or not people are losing their jobs. She is not training some random dude in the woods that no one can find or reach, she’s training a famous athlete that the entire world (at least the US) knows, so why did she really stay quiet? Personally, I believe she was staying quiet during all this “sexual assaults” (which are bs) because she was hoping for a big “ pay day” but when she found out there was no gold at the end of the rainbow she played her victim card. To me this sounds seems like it was a consensual or at the very least an implied consensual agreement that turned negative, like a bad business partnership. She was fine “training” him even though she admits he was being manipulative and assaulting her, and he seems to not have a problem keeping her hired as long as they both got what they wanted.
In this scenario, I blame the “victim” 70% and 30% on the “criminal” although I don’t really consider him a criminal in the true sense, yeah he abused his power and all messed up stuff but, she had plenty of time to stop it. Had she complained after the first time I would not have blamed her at all.
Ok now that you’ve click on my thread and fell for my trap (mwahahaha) or maybe you really do wanna talk victim blaming, let’s get to it.
I want to start off by stating my stance on the criminals (abusers, rapists, etc.) and the victims, my official and outward public opinion is that I never blame the victim for the sole purpose of letting the criminals know that this will NEVER EVER be tolerated nor ever give them a precedent to try and fall back on. Now, with that pc junk out of the way, let’s get to the fun stuff. I will play out 2 different scenarios with my opinion at the end, I would encourage people to join in.
Scenario 1:
A random lady goes jogging a few times week, same days at the same time, her creepy neighbor is constantly watching and stalking her, he knows when she’s home alone and pretty much knows her schedule. He devises a plan and one day rapes, when he’s done he threatens to kill her if she ever reports him. Unfortunately, he ends up committing this crime 2 more times before she finally calls the authorities and he gets thrown in jail.
Even though she could have reported him after the first instance but, there was enough fear (for her life and possibly others that lived with her) and cause for her not do so. Now this unfortunately, happened 2 more times before she finally reported him.
Let’s look at the criminal and the victim separately for a bit. The rapist got what he wanted, I highly doubt any person can defend the rapist in this case so I won’t elaborate any further. The victim got raped, traumatized, physically and mentally messed up as well as a bunch of other “scars” for the rest of her life, the victim was 100% a loser in this situation. She did nothing to deserve it, she could not escape it, she did not encourage it nor have the power to stop it.
In this scenario, I blame the victim 0% and 100% on the rapists.
Scenario 2:
A female personal trainer is training a famous athlete (for those wondering this scenario is loosely based off Antonio Brown’s case), after training him for a few months or even a year, one day she claims that on 3 separate occasions he exploited her and sexually assaulted her as she claims he used manipulation to bring her in to his world and get her name out there (among other athletes) as a trainer, where should would profit in return. I guess they would both profit in their own way. And for sake of this scenario, let’s not assume she only claims this happened, let’s go ahead and say this 100% happened, he 100% sexually assaulted her on 3 separate occasions.
Let’s look at the criminal and the victim separately once more. Let’s start with the “criminal”, while yes, he did possibly abuse his power as a famous athlete (and for sake of this scenario only) yes, he did sexually assault her 3 different times and yes, he did understand by getting sexual favors he would in turn “make her famous” among other athletes. I could add more but you get the idea.
Ok now to the “victim”, is she really a victim? Let’s look and think about this logically, after the first sexual assault, she must have gone home and thought about what happened, right? She must have recalled how weak and abused she felt, right? I mean for crying out loud she must have at the very least thought about what they both did to end up in that situation. Ok now that she spent all night or a few days thinning about it, we would assume if it truly were sexual assault, she would either 1) quit 2) report it to the cops or 3) Have a plan in place to make sure this doesn’t happen again. I am 100% fine if she chose option 3 since, it may or may not have really been that bad (I don’t know) and I don’t want to lose my job over it.
I am 100% fine with always giving the “victim” a pass the first time things like this happen because they could have been caught off guard and just went along with whatever was going on out of fear. Fine, I get it the world is a cruel place and sometimes crap happens. So far she is 100% innocent in my book. But, that’s not where it stop, she went back again (remember she claims 3 separate occasions) so she gets “sexually assaulted” again all while still holding out for hopes that she will get famous among other athletes and be brought in to her “abusers” world and all the bling bling that goes along with it.
The first time it happened we gave her a pass for the reasons stated above, what about the 2nd and 3rd time? Why not report him and sue him after the 2nd time? Why let it happen 3 times? Is she really a victim or just some “gold digging” modern day prostitute hoping to get famous? This is the day and age of social media and the metoo movement, why not come out after the 2nd time it happened? We all know that today whether allegations are true or not people are losing their jobs. She is not training some random dude in the woods that no one can find or reach, she’s training a famous athlete that the entire world (at least the US) knows, so why did she really stay quiet? Personally, I believe she was staying quiet during all this “sexual assaults” (which are bs) because she was hoping for a big “ pay day” but when she found out there was no gold at the end of the rainbow she played her victim card. To me this sounds seems like it was a consensual or at the very least an implied consensual agreement that turned negative, like a bad business partnership. She was fine “training” him even though she admits he was being manipulative and assaulting her, and he seems to not have a problem keeping her hired as long as they both got what they wanted.
In this scenario, I blame the “victim” 70% and 30% on the “criminal” although I don’t really consider him a criminal in the true sense, yeah he abused his power and all messed up stuff but, she had plenty of time to stop it. Had she complained after the first time I would not have blamed her at all.