Another malicious, outrageous lie

[Jayhawker Soule]

AMA president: Pres. Trump's claim that doctors overcount COVID-19 patients for more money is 'malicious, outrageous'

The president of the American Medical Association, who is also a doctor in Fort Worth, called Pres. Donald Trump's claim that doctors make more money when a patient is diagnosed with COVID-19 "malicious."

Trump made the claim at a campaign rally Friday in Wisconsin.

"Our doctors get more money if someone dies from COVID. You know that, right?" Trump asserted in front of a crowd in Waterford Township, Michigan, according to Bloomberg. He claimed doctors are paid "like $2,000 more" for deaths from the coronavirus.

The suggestion that doctors in the middle of a public health crisis are "overcounting COVID-19 patients or lying to line their pockets is a malicious, outrageous and completely misguided charge," said Dr. Susan R. Bailey in a statement.

Bailey said leaders should be following the science and urging people to abide by health guidance, like wearing face masks, social distancing and hand washing, rather than attacking doctors and "lobbing baseless charges at physicians."

"Throughout this pandemic, physicians, nurses, and frontline health care workers have risked their health, their safety and their lives to treat their patients and defeat a deadly virus," Bailey said. "They did it because duty called and because of the sacred oath they took."​

The moral depravity of this man, sustained by the moral and/or intellectual bankruptcy of those who support him are worthy of nothing but disgust.

 

[sun rise]

Will Trumpworld inhabitants stop going to doctors now? I actually wonder.

If you've not done so yet:

VOTE
FOR
BIDEN
HARRIS​

 

[Brickjectivity]

The moral depravity of this man, sustained by the moral and/or intellectual bankruptcy of those who support him are worthy of nothing but disgust.

Its on him not on everyone who votes for him. I have personally been stiffed by a doctor before. I went somewhere to get a shot, was told the bill to the medical place would cover it, but they sent me a 'Visiting physician' who personally gave me the shot and asked how I was doing while I was there. I did not request such special attention, either. A couple of weeks later they sent me an extra bill for 400$ and that even included an extra charge for psychological support for the "How are you doing?" question. That's doctors. That was a licensed physical with a practice. Doctors are business people, and they don't have sparkling reputations when it comes to billing.

 

[joe1776]

My reserve for shock has been depleted to zero. After more than 20,000 Trump lies, I'm numb.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Just a question: who exactly pays doctors to attribute deaths to covid rather than the "real" casues?

The absurdity of Trump's conspiracy is simply unfathomable...and insulting.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Its on him not on everyone who votes for him

Nonsense. People are responsible for what they enable and sustain. Rather than worrying about them being too harshly condemned, worry about the fact that they vote and that many of them raise children.

 

[dybmh]

Study Finds ‘Single Largest Driver’ of Coronavirus Misinformation: Trump

 

[Brickjectivity]

There is a lot more misinformation available than just coronavirus misinformation, and voters do what they can. They vote for the lesser evil as they understand it as people generally do. Its ancient and foundational that in the face of lies we look for honesty, but when there isn't an honest person we get confused. Why is this so hard for some people here to accept. There are no honest candidates running. There are fake socialists, fake capitalists, fake Republicans, fake Democrats, too. They'll get us further into wars, drag us through more mud; but no all that matters is coronavirus, coronavirus, coronavirus. "People are dying." Yes, they are dying; and they are dying because of this nonsense of mud slinging, which this thread is propagating. They are dying in foreign countries, and they are dying in other ways. Some people think they are dying in wombs, but we can all just dismiss that and accuse every Rep of being reprobate. That's Ok is it?

 

[PureX]

Its on him not on everyone who votes for him. I have personally been stiffed by a doctor before. I went somewhere to get a shot, was told the bill to the medical place would cover it, but they sent me a 'Visiting physician' who personally gave me the shot and asked how I was doing while I was there. I did not request such special attention, either. A couple of weeks later they sent me an extra bill for 400$ and that even included an extra charge for psychological support for the "How are you doing?" question. That's doctors. That was a licensed physical with a practice. Doctors are business people, and they don't have sparkling reputations when it comes to billing.

That was ONE doctor. Not "doctors", plural.

When I was 15 my parents sent me to a black dentist. They were mildly racist, so I'm sure they didn't know he was a black man or they wouldn't have sent me there. But I didn't care that he was black, so I stayed for the appointment.

But he turned out to be a TERRIBLE dentist. And the experience was awful. So when his filling fell out a few day later I didn't tell anyone so I wouldn't have to go back.

Does this mean all black dentists are terrible? Of course not. Does this mean all dentists are terrible? Of course not. Does this mean all fillings fall out after a few days? Of course not,

I'm sure you get the point.

 

[exchemist]

AMA president: Pres. Trump's claim that doctors overcount COVID-19 patients for more money is 'malicious, outrageous'

The president of the American Medical Association, who is also a doctor in Fort Worth, called Pres. Donald Trump's claim that doctors make more money when a patient is diagnosed with COVID-19 "malicious."

Trump made the claim at a campaign rally Friday in Wisconsin.

"Our doctors get more money if someone dies from COVID. You know that, right?" Trump asserted in front of a crowd in Waterford Township, Michigan, according to Bloomberg. He claimed doctors are paid "like $2,000 more" for deaths from the coronavirus.

The suggestion that doctors in the middle of a public health crisis are "overcounting COVID-19 patients or lying to line their pockets is a malicious, outrageous and completely misguided charge," said Dr. Susan R. Bailey in a statement.

Bailey said leaders should be following the science and urging people to abide by health guidance, like wearing face masks, social distancing and hand washing, rather than attacking doctors and "lobbing baseless charges at physicians."

"Throughout this pandemic, physicians, nurses, and frontline health care workers have risked their health, their safety and their lives to treat their patients and defeat a deadly virus," Bailey said. "They did it because duty called and because of the sacred oath they took."​

The moral depravity of this man, sustained by the moral and/or intellectual bankruptcy of those who support him are worthy of nothing but disgust.

But surely this is by now just self-destruction? I mean, who among the electorate is going to vote for someone who responds to an epidemic by trying to trash the reputation of the doctors? You'd need to be a fairly rabid, full paid-up Trumpie to go for that. And he has those votes already, so this is not going to help him get over the line - quite the reverse.

 

[tytlyf]

They view Donald Trump as a savior, pastor. Can say anything and the support is loyal. Propaganda wouldn't be effective if people were aware.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

There is a lot more misinformation available than just coronavirus misinformation, and voters do what they can. They vote for the lesser evil as they understand it as people generally do. Its ancient and foundational that in the face of lies we look for honesty, but when there isn't an honest person we get confused. Why is this so hard for some people here to accept. There are no honest candidates running. There are fake socialists, fake capitalists, fake Republicans, fake Democrats, too. They'll get us further into wars, drag us through more mud; but no all that matters is coronavirus, coronavirus, coronavirus. "People are dying." Yes, they are dying; and they are dying because of this nonsense of mud slinging, which this thread is propagating. They are dying in foreign countries, and they are dying in other ways. Some people think they are dying in wombs, but we can all just dismiss that and accuse every Rep of being reprobate. That's Ok is it?

I, for one, want to return to some sense 9f normalcy. Trump is extremely antagonistic towards this as his barrage of cov9d lies have made America suffer and struggle with this in ways we shouldn't have. This isn't fake socialists or fake capitalist or this or that, its one man who has been deliberately lying to the public abkut a deadly virus for months, and now its a "blessing from god." Thats lunacy. Biden isnt doing that. Dems arent doing that. Trump is. Republicans are.

 

[exchemist]

I, for one, want to return to some sense 9f normalcy. Trump is extremely antagonistic towards this as his barrage of cov9d lies have made America suffer and struggle with this in ways we shouldn't have. This isn't fake socialists or fake capitalist or this or that, its one man who has been deliberately lying to the public abkut a deadly virus for months, and now its a "blessing from god." Thats lunacy. Biden isnt doing that. Dems arent doing that. Trump is. Republicans are.

Trump has lied about almost everything from the moment he took office. It started with the size of the crowd in Washington and went on from there.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Trump has lied about almost everything from the moment he took office. It started with the size of the crowd in Washington and went on from there.

Yup. But this is not one his trivial, petty, no one gives a damn lies like the inauguration crowd. People are getting sick and dying over this, the nation is slow to recover, and hurting worse than it should because of his lies.

 

[Salty Booger]

The moral depravity of this man, sustained by the moral and/or intellectual bankruptcy of those who support him are worthy of nothing but disgust.

Yeah, but look at the alternative...Joe.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yeah, but look at the alternative...Joe.

Yeah. Look at him. He wouldnt have called covid a Republican hoax, he wouldn't have downplayed it, he wouldn't have undermined and contradicted the experts, and he wouldn't have called getting it a blessing from god.
And yeah. Trump also disparages the troops amd disrespects their families. Biden has served them hotdogs and beer.
Trump basically name calls and disrespect everyone like hes a child. Biden doesn't do that.
Yeah, and, Trump has paper thin skin. He can't take an insult or challenge without throwing childish tantrums, rebuttals, and mockery. Just ask him about his itty-bitty doll hands.

 

[Salty Booger]

Yeah. Look at him. He wouldnt have called covid a Republican hoax, he wouldn't have downplayed it, he wouldn't have undermined and contradicted the experts, and he wouldn't have called getting it a blessing from god.
And yeah. Trump also disparages the troops amd disrespects their families. Biden has served them hotdogs and beer.
Trump basically name calls and disrespect everyone like hes a child. Biden doesn't do that.
Yeah, and, Trump has paper thin skin. He can't take an insult or challenge without throwing childish tantrums, rebuttals, and mockery. Just ask him about his itty-bitty doll hands.

Where is Joe right now?

 

[Mr Spinkles]

But surely this is by now just self-destruction? I mean, who among the electorate is going to vote for someone who responds to an epidemic by trying to trash the reputation of the doctors? You'd need to be a fairly rabid, full paid-up Trumpie to go for that. And he has those votes already, so this is not going to help him get over the line - quite the reverse.

Do not underestimate the stupidity of about 40% of the American voting public.

You’ll be less confused that way.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Where is Joe right now?

I couldn't tell you where either is right now.

 

[Mr Spinkles]

Yeah, but look at the alternative...Joe.

Remember when Joe was in the White House for eight years and did the exact same thing?

That was just four years ago.

Yeah, me neither. I guess they are different, huh.