Do you understand Religion, or do you think you understand Religion

[Spirit of Light]

Many people in RF holds a belief in one Religion or an other.
Many people in RF do not hold a belief in Religion.

1: Are you sure you understand what Religion really is, and what is needed to be done to gain full effect of the practice ?

2: Or do you think you know what Religion really is about, but do not see the need to practice any of it to know and understand?

 

[Twilight Hue]

I see religion as a personal interpretation at best of problems or issues that may or may not exist.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I see religion as a personal interpretation at best of problems or issues that may or may not exist.

Nothing spiritual in religion?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Nothing spiritual in religion?

Aside from romanticism, I would say no.

 

[danieldemol]

Many people in RF holds a belief in one Religion or an other.
Many people in RF do not hold a belief in Religion.

1: Are you sure you understand what Religion really is, and what is needed to be done to gain full effect of the practice ?

2: Or do you think you know what Religion really is about, but do not see the need to practice any of it to know and understand?

As a person who has deeply practiced a religion in the past I think it is just pride speaking to think people can't understand a religion without practising it.

 

[Spirit of Light]

As a person who has deeply practiced a religion in the past I think it is just pride speaking to think people can't understand a religion without practising it.

This op is not an attack on atheists i dont do that anymore.
The reason for my OP is that if someone who practice a religion and say " this is my understanding of it" there will always be those who disagree, and that is normal.

But there is always the risk of getting " you are wrong " from someone who either pracran other religion or from someone who are well in to religion as you self, but do not practice it as a religion anymore

 

[danieldemol]

This op is not an attack on atheists i dont do that anymore.
The reason for my OP is that if someone who practice a religion and say " this is my understanding of it" there will always be those who disagree, and that is normal.

But there is always the risk of getting " you are wrong " from someone who either pracran other religion or from someone who are well in to religion as you self, but do not practice it as a religion anymore

I think the appropriate thing to do is consider the perspective of the other rather than dismiss it offhand simply because they are not a practitioner.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I think the appropriate thing to do is consider the perspective of the other rather than dismiss it offhand simply because they are not a practitioner.

If they are well educated in the scripture but does not believe in it, yes they can highlight important parts of the teaching, but will they get the deeper spiritual sense/wisdom from it? Or will their understanding stay 8n a basic level?

If i was to comment on any other religion then the one i follow and practicing my self, how would i know my words would be more correct then someone who practice that other religion?
The only way ( in my understanding) to comment is to say as an example.
In islam the teaching say this....why does the teaching you follow explain it this way....?

You see the difference? To not attack others belief but try to compare it with something from the teaching we our self practicing

 

[nPeace]

Many people in RF holds a belief in one Religion or an other.
Many people in RF do not hold a belief in Religion.

1: Are you sure you understand what Religion really is, and what is needed to be done to gain full effect of the practice ?

2: Or do you think you know what Religion really is about, but do not see the need to practice any of it to know and understand?

I am sure I understand what Religion really is.
Religion is a form of worship.

Since it is a form of worship, what that means is, people offer worship in one way or other, to one thing or other.

If the worship is given to gods that are no gods, the worship is futile, and meaningless - no matter how it is done.

If the worship is given to the true God, would it not matter how it is practice? I would think so..

How would we know that? Would the true God not reveal how he wants to be worshiped, and what pleases him, or displeases him? Seems logical.

Has God revealed to man how he wants to be worshiped... What do you think?
I should probably ask,,, Do you believe there is a true God, because if you don't then the first question would not apply. Do you believe there is a God that created life?

 

[Spirit of Light]

I am sure I understand what Religion really is.
Religion is a form of worship.

Since it is a form of worship, what that means is, people offer worship in one way or other, to one thing or other.

If the worship is given to gods that are no gods, the worship is futile, and meaningless - no matter how it is done.

If the worship is given to the true God, would it not matter how it is practice? I would think so..

How would we know that? Would the true God not reveal how he wants to be worshiped, and what pleases him, or displeases him? Seems logical.

Has God revealed to man how he wants to be worshiped... What do you think?
I should probably ask,,, Do you believe there is a true God, because if you don't then the first question would not apply. Do you believe there is a God that created life?

Allah is a real God yes

 

[nPeace]

Allah is a real God yes

Allah means God.
That would translate to God is a real God yes. ?
That's puzzling. How is one supposed to understand that? What does that mean to you?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Many people in RF holds a belief in one Religion or an other.
Many people in RF do not hold a belief in Religion.

1: Are you sure you understand what Religion really is, and what is needed to be done to gain full effect of the practice ?

2: Or do you think you know what Religion really is about, but do not see the need to practice any of it to know and understand?

In my experience, academic knowledge alone may lead to an understanding of the mechanics of something, but no one truly understands something until they experience it.

A not-so-brief anecdote:

I used to ride to work with my step-father every day in the summertime and on weekends since I was 11. Every truck he had was a Ford F-250 with a four-speed manual stick.

As one that always needs to know how something works, I watched every move and thought I had a thorough understanding of how to drive that truck.

Three years later at the age of 14, I was armed with all the knowledge and understanding of how to drive. After all, I backed my mother's van out of the garage on numerous occasions, so I had this driving thing down pat, right?

After asking my step-father if I could drive, he pulled to truck to the side of the dirt road we lived on, stopped and shut it down. I walked around the back of the truck, and I got behind the wheel confident that I had an understanding of how to drive, fired it up, pushed down the clutch, shifted into 2nd (1st was granny gear), gave it a bit of gas, and instantly killed the engine.

Okay, I didn't give it enough gas. So I fired it back up, pushed down the clutch again, gave it some gas, and shot gravel in every direction sending the back end of the truck out of control. When all was said and done, we were sideways on the road and not running. In a panic, I had slammed on the brake, forgot to depress the clutch, and killed the engine again.

It was then I realized that I had the knowledge to drive the truck, but not the understanding. After several more tries, I got it, but it was experience, not knowledge, that brought me understanding.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Allah means God.
That would translate to God is a real God yes. ?
That's puzzling. How is one supposed to understand that? What does that mean to you?

Allah is arabic for God

 

[SalixIncendium]

Allah means God.
That would translate to God is a real God yes. ?
That's puzzling. How is one supposed to understand that? What does that mean to you?

My step-father's truck was a real truck. How puzzling is that?

 

[nPeace]

Allah is arabic for God

I know. That's why I am asking you.
How is one supposed to understand the statement you made ... God is a real God? What does that mean to you?

 

[nPeace]

My step-father's truck was a real truck. How puzzling is that?

You did not say "Truck is a real truck". How does that sound now?

 

[SalixIncendium]

You did not say "Truck is a real truck". How does that sound now?

Like it's not a Hot Wheels, a Matchbox, or Tonka?

 

[nPeace]

My step-father's truck was a real truck. How puzzling is that?

if one says, the God I worship, is the true God. That makes sense. but if I ask which god is that, and You say God.

 

[nPeace]

Like it's not a Hot Wheels, a Matchbox, or Tonka?

 

[MNoBody]

religion is like food, some people develop an appetite for it....
is it considered "normal" behavior to quiz people endlessly over their choice of food?
apparently people do not make the correlation.