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I agree, God would not want anyone to believe in Him without evidence.Ergo, I am sure pretty sure He or She would consider the intellectual sin of believing in gods without evidence an abomination.
I agree. God is trying to get our attention, and until He does, He is going to continue on the rampage.Right now, I think the gods are psssed with Earth and us ! If they exist I mean ?
Baha'is share common beliefs but we relate to them differently and we practice our faith differently because we have different backgrounds and different personalities. Do you think all Christians are the same?That's silly. If there were not representative Baha'i views, then you would be unable to recognize the difference between being Baha'i and not being Baha'i.
You might see it differently on the other side..... I used to think that way, not because I thought God was immoral, but because I thought God was cruel for all the suffering caused by the material world He created, so I told God that I do not want to be anywhere near Him in this life or in the next. I thus made my own hell, because being distant from God is hell. I am still not going to forgive God for all my suffering but He knows that and I think he forgives me for feeling that way, knowing the suffering I have endured, and I suspect my tune will change after I die and the suffering is over and I realize what it was all for. But for now, I am still angry, although not as angry as I used to be.If I find a given god of a given heaven to be immoral, getting into that heaven would be hell.
Are you under the impression that representative is a synonym for "same"?Baha'is share common beliefs but we relate to them differently and we practice our faith differently because we have different backgrounds and different personalities. Do you think all Christians are the same?
Then it wouldn't be me on the other side. That would be someone else.You might see it differently on the other side.
I don't quite think that way. But I do feel for you, and am sorry that these things plague you. My feelings, anger or otherwise, are necessarily directed at people.I used to think that way, not because I thought God was immoral, but because I thought God was cruel for all the suffering caused by the material world He created, so I told God that I do not want to be anywhere near Him in this life or in the next. I thus made my own hell, because being distant from God is hell. I am still not going to forgive God for all my suffering but He knows that and I think he forgives me for feeling that way, knowing the suffering I have endured, and I suspect my tune will change after I die and the suffering is over and I realize what it was all for. But for now, I am still angry, although not as angry as I used to be.
God could easily get our attention.I agree. God is trying to get our attention, and until He does, He is going to continue on the rampage.
Representative means typical of a class, group, or body of opinion.Are you under the impression that representative is a synonym for "same"?
That may well be true, because all that goes with to to the spiritual world aka afterlife is your soul, which is the sum total of your personality. As such, when you land on the afterlife landing strip, you will BE whatever you were in this life.Then it wouldn't be me on the other side. That would be someone else.
How could you? You do not believe that God exists.I don't quite think that way. But I do feel for you, and am sorry that these things plague you. My feelings, anger or otherwise, are necessarily directed at people.
And just how do you think God could relay that information?God could easily get our attention.
Just give us a bit of information that isn't more plausibly attributed to a human making things up. But there is demonstrably no God who cares about us that much.
Tom
The common beliefs would be the typical part.Representative means typical of a class, group, or body of opinion.
There are no typical Baha'is, all we share are common beliefs.
I couldn't. Which is why your saying that you used to think the way that I do made no sense.How could you? You do not believe that God exists.
I cannot believe in a god as limited as your God image. I just can't.And just how do you think God could relay that information?
Sorry, the only way God can relay information is through a human because that is the only way we an ever understand that information since we are also human.
Then God cannot be omnipotent.Sorry, the only way God can relay information is through a human because that is the only way we an ever understand that information since we are also human.
Gimmie a break.Then God cannot be omnipotent.
You keep insisting that God is limited this way. I see no reason to believe that.Sorry, the only way God can relay information such that a human could understand God is through a human because that is the only way we can ever understand that information since we are also human.
You can have all the breaks that you need.Gimmie a break.
This has nothing to do with any limitations of God, it is related to the limitations of humans.
Sorry, the only way God can relay information such that a human could understand God is through a human because that is the only way we can ever understand that information since we are also human.
God is not limited, humans are limited.You keep insisting that God is limited this way. I see no reason to believe that.
Tom
Gimme a break.You can have all the breaks that you need.
What you are basically saying is that God is limited in what he can do, by the limitations of what humans can do. You do not get what omnipotence is. If God is omnipotent, then he can have no limitations. He could communicate any message directly with anyone, at anytime without exceeding human capacities. Or he could just change us all to be able to receive his messages.
Omnipotence is the ability to do anything. Anything. ANYTHING!