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Where did the words written in the Bible come from?

IAMinyou

Active Member
What test exactly?

Are you saying their minds will be destroyed by fire?

Because burning things up is so far the only test you've given for determining the temporary from the eternal.

How is that any different from simply saying they will be destroyed by fire entirely? Why bother specifying their minds in that case? Because if their minds were burned up they'd be dead anyway.




Your standard for determining temporary from eternal makes it impossible for anyone to answer the question you posed.

And impossible for you yourself to answer your own question.

You can't talk about what temporary thoughts are in the Bible because you have no way of establishing what is or is not a temporary thought without destroying the world and everyone in it by fire.

Since that hasn't happened yet - How do you propose to discuss which thoughts in the Bible are temporary vs eternal, when you have no means of first identifying what they are?

You might not be experiencing life on the day of the Lord but that will be the day that very high heat will melt away everything but the information that is used to form the Earth.
 

IAMinyou

Active Member
Please provide a citation to support this claim (non-Biblical, please).

If you have ever watched a barn burn away into smoke, then you will learn what high heat can do to an illusion you observe in your mind. Wait until the day of the Lord when all the illusions melt away in less than one hour.
 

Howard Is

Lucky Mud
To you unbelievers, yes. You have all kinds of words from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil to reject your created existence.

Wow. You sure just proved you make wild assumptions about me.
And your post supports my observation of delusional megalomania.
 

IAMinyou

Active Member
Wow. You sure just proved you make wild assumptions about me.
And your post supports my observation of delusional megalomania.

It doesn't take long to know who understands what is eternal or not. Most minds only think with temporary thoughts.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Science was written as a theme for minus one.

Natural 12 hours of day light, gas mass burning O on a planet exists only discussed by a human in that experience, to count time to equate its cycle exists.

12 hours day light, gases burning 12 hours of clear night time gases...not equal in equality actually. But quoted balances or EVEN, then 12 hours was that even quote.

So if you were an arrogant self who quotes I want change but I do not want to be changed, which science human males own quoting, but change is change....then did you not lie to self originally?

As word applier, to tell stories, to own a thesis by storytelling, to then think for a detailed thesis, and quote information about presence of mass as O one body?

For one is mass with multi numbering themes about mass as mass. One and number 1, Earth owns all the numbers.

For space would be quoted as number 2....the condition to use as a status removal and conversion of the mass.

So as all numbers are actually inside of the Earth in science x mass. If you said infinite and it is a number sequence that cannot be counted. Then you never counted it. For it does not actually own any numbers.

Which is one of the places in history, human and male that you lie about today.

Where you placed the numbers and it was not in space.

So space is infinite as quote...do not know how big or large or empty it is. So it is NOT the eternal.

Eternal means always existed, has always existed, will always exist and it is the place where we got abstracted from. For space is the place that separates creation from the eternal, as a loss from its body.

We know as we came across as a pre owned spirit body, eternal, forced to come into the atmosphere, as the atmosphere had filled in EMPTY space...and communicated to the eternal. So the heavenly mass became a lower converted connection, re connected itself.

That teaching, is human taught as karma....cause and effect, what you change you gain a result back. So the heavens came back and changed spirit eternal again.

Why we know all about it, for we came out of it as an adult male human and an adult female human. But as we are just babies from sperm/ovary consciousness, only adult living life experiences allowed us to regain adult human memory that taught us where we came from.

So consciously we say little cells of little amounts of information came out of the eternal referring to our baby self experience.

All humans own the use to be reminded and human pre existing adult memory.

A human owned all word definition and terminology as males, in a group agreement. Only living humans in group own and use the coercive persuasive human adult condition against newly born and new born babies. If you are born and look at adult misbehaviour like I did...I then challenged all of their coercive group human teachings.

That historically state and quote, if particular groups said information is what it is and how it is and you did not agree, they simply killed you. Why coercion is a part of human aware teaching reality about lying, historically. For it is only group and human "i know it all reasoning", when we never did.

For since when do you know what the mass of any huge massive planet is or was before it became that planet? You would be telling lies if you said you knew. You only pretend you know then have to coerce other humans into believing your information is correct.

Science as information for humans says on Earth, I own the human awareness of how to force change the mass of fusion. And invent/cause more irradiating spaces to form. So I add onto space and extend space in my own machine invention....why I feel so powerful. What I learnt about humans imposing words on bodies that never owned any word until a human gave it a word.
 

Howard Is

Lucky Mud
It doesn't take long to know who understands what is eternal or not. Most minds only think with temporary thoughts.

All minds think temporary thoughts. (Don’t know why you wrote ‘think with ‘ ).

Give an example, or description, of an ‘eternal thought’.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
If you have ever watched a barn burn away into smoke, then you will learn what high heat can do to an illusion you observe in your mind. Wait until the day of the Lord when all the illusions melt away in less than one hour.

So you can't provide a citation. Thanks.
 

IAMinyou

Active Member
All minds think temporary thoughts. (Don’t know why you wrote ‘think with ‘ ).

Give an example, or description, of an ‘eternal thought’.

Everyone who chases after eternal life ends up dead, but those who have eternal life won't remember the dead.

The end and the beginning will happen soon. It's all a matter of who you listen to.

The course of this age is known and so is the next, that's the kind of leadership we all should follow, and we will.

Everyone that was made flesh have one thing in common, they all will die. Everyone who was created a spirit have one thing in common, they all will live forever. Some of us are living now.
 

IAMinyou

Active Member
Sorry, but thought is inherent to the brain. Without a brain, one cannot think.

That is what liars tell you. We won't need brains in the next generation. They were only meant to deceive those who observe them thinking they can figure out what they're about. All the thinking is done for you by the invisible IMAGE and VOICE of our CREATOR which is much like an AI system that speaks. You don't even need a body to experience life.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
The words that formed in the mind of Jesus came from the FATHER, the CREATOR of all things visible and invisible. All the servants called prophets and saints write or speak whatever words form in their minds from our FATHER'S Image, the first born of Creation known as the Word of God. Here are other names and phrases that represent the IMAGE and VOICE of our CREATOR; Word of the Lord, Son of God, Grace of God, Love of God, Wisdom of God, Voice of God, Voice of the Lord, Spirit of God, Spirit, Lord, God, Holy Spirit, Messiah, Mother, the Woman, Creation, Virgin, Son of God, Heaven, Heavenly Kingdom, Kingdom of God, Christ, Mind of Christ, Mind of God, Kingdom of Christ, Jesus Christ, Ancient of Days, Light of Men, Light of God, the Light, Kingdom of the Spirit, the Rock, the Breath, Breath of Life, Book of Life, and the Tree of Life. There are others but this is sufficient to help you understand that the Bible is about this invisible Image of our Creator.

John 7
13: Yet for fear of the Jews no one spoke openly of him.
14: About the middle of the feast Jesus went up into the temple and taught.
15: The Jews marveled at it, saying, "How is it that this man has learning, when he has never studied?"
16: So Jesus answered them, "My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me;
17: if any man's will is to do his will, he shall know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority.
18: He who speaks on his own authority seeks his own glory; but he who seeks the glory of him who sent him is true, and in him there is no falsehood.

John 14
23: Jesus answered him, "If a man loves me, he will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.
24: He who does not love me does not keep my words; and the word which you hear is not mine but the Father's who sent me.
25: "These things I have spoken to you, while I am still with you.
26: But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.

John 16
7: Nevertheless I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you.
8: And when he comes, he will convince the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment:
9: concerning sin, because they do not believe in me;
10: concerning righteousness, because I go to the Father, and you will see me no more;
11: concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
12: "I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now.
13: When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come.
14: He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you.
15: All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.

Jesus is deity.
 

IAMinyou

Active Member
So you can't provide a citation. Thanks.

Revelation 18
17: In one hour all this wealth has been laid waste." And all shipmasters and seafaring men, sailors and all whose trade is on the sea, stood far off
18: and cried out as they saw the smoke of her burning, "What city was like the great city?"
19: And they threw dust on their heads, as they wept and mourned, crying out, "Alas, alas, for the great city where all who had ships at sea grew rich by her wealth! In one hour she has been laid waste.
20: Rejoice over her, O heaven, O saints and apostles and prophets, for God has given judgment for you against her!"
21: Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, "So shall Babylon the great city be thrown down with violence, and shall be found no more;
22: and the sound of harpers and minstrels, of flute players and trumpeters, shall be heard in thee no more; and a craftsman of any craft shall be found in thee no more; and the sound of the millstone shall be heard in thee no more;
23: and the light of a lamp shall shine in thee no more; and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall be heard in thee no more; for thy merchants were the great men of the earth, and all nations were deceived by thy sorcery.
24: And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints, and of all who have been slain on earth."
 

IAMinyou

Active Member
Jesus is deity.

Jesus was just one of the many VISIBLE human beings known as prophets and saints used to testify to the INVISIBLE IMAGE of our CREATOR known as the VOICE of GOD. Didn't you read all the other phrases found in the Bible that represent this INVISIBLE IMAGE of our CREATOR that I provided in the last comment to you?
 
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