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Disproof of Darwinism

ecco

Veteran Member
What is probability for fishes to become humankind?

Serious question - is English your first language?



Other than that, I'll just repeat myself. That's really all I can do.
The 7 1/2 billion humans on earth are the result of evolution.
Probability states that some of these 7 1/2 billion people will reject science.
Probability states that some of these 7 1/2 billion people will remain willfully, woefully ignorant their entire lives.

Some people have different educations than others.

Hey, boy, yasee that big ol' red car there? that's a ford. next to it is a chev-ro-lay. dems both cars - but real folk drive trucks - pickup trucks. that's enuff edicatin for now - go get me another beer.
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
That is a statement of human construct. Doesn't necessarily make it true.
Is it your claim that humans are not animals?

If so, what pray tell do you think humans are?
Mineral perhaps?
Plants?
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Darwinism has no probability calculation. Thus, it is not a theory.
Why do you call yourself 'questfortruth" when everything you do says that the truth is the very last thing on your to-do list? Why don't you do the honest thing and rename yourself "questforvalidation?"
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
How many chimps have become humans in 2020? Is it more than in 2019?
I do not, in all honesty, believe that you could have asked any other question that would be a more certain indication of your total lack of knowledge of the topic you pretend to be so interested in. For God's sake, you don't even know what the theory says, and in complete and utter ignorance of WHAT IT SAYS, you declare it to be false.

That would be exactly the same thing as saying "I don't understand how electrons work, so computers and telephones are impossible." I promise you, you don't actually know how any of that works, but since you have a computer and a phone you accept them.

Well, the rest of us -- who have done the work -- have evolution and see its results plainly. And it works. So we accept it.
 
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Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
King Sargon the Great of Akkad lived about 4300 years ago. Let us suppose, just for a moment, that human generations are about 25 years. (They were less for most of human history, and a bit more today, but 25 is a good approximation. If people think I'm cheating, I'll adjust it to 30.)

Okay, 30 years it is.

Now, you do know that every human born has 2 parents, and 2X2 grandparents, and 2X2X2 great grandparents, and so on. Assuming that not very many people are engaging in incest, that would mean the following:

There have been about 143 generations between King Sargon and now. Now, for anybody to ask, "how many progenitors might I have had in 143 generations?" the answer is quite simple 2 raised to the power of 143. That's simple enough:

1,115,040,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. (I rounded off a bit...didn't' think it mattered.)

Now, not in much, much more than one hundred trillion years will that many people ever exist on earth, so very clearly, every one of us here, and everybody in China, and everybody in Argentina, and everybody who's been to the moon, are all descended from Sargon the Great.

As you ponder the puzzlement of big numbers in thinking about evolution, think about that for a moment.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Is it your claim that humans are not animals?

If so, what pray tell do you think humans are?
Mineral perhaps?
Plants?
A being that has a spirit? That's a possibility IMV. Then again, science basically doesn't deal with that arena.
 

questfortruth

Well-Known Member
Watch the Systematic Classification of Life series. It will help you to answer that question yourself (and many others).
Tell me yourself. It is trolling to send me to school. I got the gold medal for school completion. I know that Darwinism is absurd because no known fish has become ape. And if unknown fish in the Pacific Ocean during 2020 has become ape, the reality is absurd. The reality can not be absurd by definition of reality: reality is that comes from God of Reality.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Tell me yourself. It is trolling to send me to school. I got the gold medal for school completion. I know that Darwinism is absurd because no known fish has become ape. And if unknown fish in the Pacific Ocean during 2020 has become ape, the reality is absurd. The reality can not be absurd by definition of reality: reality is that comes from God of Reality.
Yes they have. Are you unaware of the fossil record?
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
Tell me yourself. It is trolling to send me to school. I got the gold medal for school completion. I know that Darwinism is absurd because no known fish has become ape. And if unknown fish in the Pacific Ocean during 2020 has become ape, the reality is absurd. The reality can not be absurd by definition of reality: reality is that comes from God of Reality.
I don't think that sending you to school is trolling. It is simply a necessity for us to communicate on the same level. Your questions reveal that your biology teacher, if you ever had one, failed you miserably.
You are like a maths denier who says that calculus can't work while being unable to do fractions.
You can't criticise Darwin when you don't know Linné.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
If apes are fish, then the first law of logic is violated. If apes are not fish, then I have the question: how probable for fishes to become apes?
Good grief, are you some genius scientist now?
People with far more knowledge in the subject than you and I; people a lot cleverer that you and I have researched this and found the connection.
Stop making uninformed assertions and READ/LEARN about the topic.
Incredulity is not an argument
 

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
A being that has a spirit? That's a possibility IMV. Then again, science basically doesn't deal with that arena.
It doesn't. The Hominidae (whose members are known as great apes or hominids) are a taxonomic family of primates that includes eight extant species in four genera:

Gorilla (the eastern and western gorilla),

Homo (of which only modern humans remain).

Pan (the common chimpanzee and the bonobo)

and

Pongo (the Bornean, Sumatran and Tapanuli orangutan).
 
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