The good in seeing a friend again after weeks with no contact

[Spirit of Light]

Finally I got a good surprise in my daily life again
My Muslim female friend was back from vacation today ( she work in the local food store).
When she saw me she asked me to come to her shopping queue when I would be finish shopping.
So I did and to my surprise she come around to me and gave me the biggest hug I gotten in a long time

So yes right now I am smiling again and realized how much it mean to see someone we missing

 

[metis]

Minus the hug, I've had a similar experience with a Muslim woman who works at a Walgreens near me, whereas whenever we'd see each other we'd smile and talk. However, since I'm married, plus only about 40 years older than she, ...

 

[Piculet]

I guess it's the wrong place for me to point out she's committing a sin at that.. But I can't not.

 

[QuestioningMind]

I guess it's the wrong place for me to point out she's committing a sin at that.. But I can't not.

What kind of a moronic deity would deem two people hugging to be a sin? And if there really is such a moronic deity, why would anyone actually consider them to be worthy of worship?

 

[metis]

I guess it's the wrong place for me to point out she's committing a sin at that.. But I can't not.

First of all, she's not married; and secondly, talking with customers is part of her job.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I guess it's the wrong place for me to point out she's committing a sin at that.. But I can't not.

I have spoken with her father, and he accept me as a close friend of all their family, and she had been allowed to give me a friendly hug. But I don't judge other Muslims who feel it might be wrong.

 

[Spirit of Light]

I knew this OP could create some discussion from some of our Muslim friends in RF but that is welcomed here.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

I have spoken with her father, and he accept me as a close friend of all their family, and she had been allowed to give me a friendly hug. But I don't judge other Muslims who feel it might be wrong.

An adult woman doesn't need permission from her dad/husband to do anything.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

What kind of a moronic deity would deem two people hugging to be a sin? And if there really is such a moronic deity, why would anyone actually consider them to be worthy of worship?

Sad what religious indoctrination does to people, isn't it?

 

[Rational Agnostic]

I guess it's the wrong place for me to point out she's committing a sin at that.. But I can't not.

None of us non-Muslims care about the rules of your imaginary god.

 

[Spirit of Light]

An adult woman doesn't need permission from her dad/husband to do anything.

No Islam practiced in a calm and personal way is not sick, it was me who had a talk with her father because I know rules are different and more strict when it comes to friendship between a Muslim woman and a none Muslim like my self.
So I did it out of respect for her and their culture.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

No Islam practiced in a calm and personal way is not sick, it was me who had a talk with her father because I know rules are different and more strict when it comes to friendship between a Muslim woman and a none Muslim like my self.
So I did it out of respect for her and their culture.

Even the "calm" version of Islam teaches that men are superior to women, which is wrong. So, sorry but not sorry, I most certainly don't respect Islamic culture.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Even the "calm" version of Islam teaches that men are superior to women, which is wrong. So, sorry but not sorry, I most certainly don't respect Islamic culture.

Then my advice is that you stop answering in this thread, no need to be evil toward my friend just because you dislike Islam.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

Then my advice is that you stop answering in this thread, no need to be evil toward my friend just because you dislike Islam.

How am I being "evil?" I never said I don't respect Muslims. I just don't respect the culture and teachings of the Muslim religion. I'm sure your friend is a wonderful person. I just genuinely feel bad that she is a victim of religious indoctrination.

 

[Spirit of Light]

How am I being "evil?" I never said I don't respect Muslims. I just don't respect the culture and teachings of the Muslim religion. I'm sure your friend is a wonderful person. I just genuinely feel bad that she is a victim of religious indoctrination.

She is no victim of any indoctrination, she has a very healthy view of Islam, and all her family have asked about my own religious views and accepted that my view are different then their view.

You are of course welcome to disagree with Islam and their culture. I don't stop you there. But the way you wrote your first messages was to me directly a negative view of my friend and her religion.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

She is no victim of any indoctrination, she has a very healthy view of Islam, and all her family have asked about my own religious views and accepted that my view are different then their view.

You are of course welcome to disagree with Islam and their culture. I don't stop you there. But the way you wrote your first messages was to me directly a negative view of my friend and her religion.

Sorry if I came off too negative. I don't have a negative view of your friend ,not at all. Her religion? Well, yeah I do, but if she practices it willingly I respect her right to do that. I don't think religion deserves special protection from criticism, though. It's possible to strongly disagree with someone's beliefs and still respect them as a person, as long as they don't try to forcefully impose their beliefs on others.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Sorry if I came off too negative. I don't have a negative view of your friend ,not at all. Her religion? Well, yeah I do, but if she practices it willingly I respect her right to do that. I don't think religion deserves special protection from criticism, though. It's possible to strongly disagree with someone's beliefs and still respect them as a person, as long as they don't try to forcefully impose their beliefs on others.

That I agree with you on.
And just to say it I certainly do not agree always with my friend and her religion. But I do respect her 100% and I would not step past the rules she and her family put forth in our friendship

 

[sun rise]

What kind of a moronic deity would deem two people hugging to be a sin? And if there really is such a moronic deity, why would anyone actually consider them to be worthy of worship?

It's not the deity but the extremely narrow, rigid viewpoint that turns virtue into vice and attempts to force humanity back to the dead past.

 

[QuestioningMind]

It's not the deity but the extremely narrow, rigid viewpoint that turns virtue into vice and attempts to force humanity back to the dead past.

All I can do is take the poster at their word that the deity they believe in considers hugging to be a sin.

 

[Spirit of Light]

All I can do is take the poster at their word that the deity they believe in considers hugging to be a sin.

I don't know all of those rules yet, but maybe it was because she is a friend and not my wife that the poster reacted
And yes I understand their rules are strict, but I think the reason is to not make it difficult for their families. Respect is very important to them as far as I understand.
And if I as a none Muslim made any in her family lose face, it would be not good at all