It means something for some,not for all,I still see no error in my vote.
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How are we doing post-Brexit?
- Thread starter Altfish
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It means something for some,not for all,I still see no error in my vote.
I doesn't mean something to those who are wrong and could not care that they are wrong and made a false statement.
Something for remainers to live with I guess.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Ok. I know it's that and not "oh my god their food must taste so awful and be so bland."
Nope dishonesty is not a remainers trait
Oh no, it's not that. But i have once been faced with spray on cheese.
Now I'm disappointed.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Es tut mir leid.
I can only speak for what i have seen on thus thread
It was unlikely that she'd choose someone else, but it was her choice, not yours.
GoodbyeDave
Well-Known Member
Perhaps one benefit of Brexit actually happening will be that the remoaners will stop posting … but perhaps that's too optimistic.
And perhaps the leavers will stop gloating, but i doubt it
Augustus
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Something from the right-wing Brexiteer rag The Guardian here:
Why Brexit is a chance to fix the UK economy’s long-term problems
Growth rate since joining EEC in 1973 has been slower than in decades before entry
A new era has begun for the UK. As the outgoing governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, noted this week, Britain has entered a decade of potentially profound structural change.
Those who mourn Britain’s departure from the EU are sure this fundamental change is going to be painful and detrimental. But there are those who see Brexit as an opportunity not a threat.
Their argument is threefold: the British economy is malfunctioning and needs to be rebooted; Europe isn’t working either; and it will be easier to make the necessary changes outside the EU.
Why Brexit is a chance to fix the UK economy’s long-term problems
Why Brexit is a chance to fix the UK economy’s long-term problems
Growth rate since joining EEC in 1973 has been slower than in decades before entry
A new era has begun for the UK. As the outgoing governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, noted this week, Britain has entered a decade of potentially profound structural change.
Those who mourn Britain’s departure from the EU are sure this fundamental change is going to be painful and detrimental. But there are those who see Brexit as an opportunity not a threat.
Their argument is threefold: the British economy is malfunctioning and needs to be rebooted; Europe isn’t working either; and it will be easier to make the necessary changes outside the EU.
Why Brexit is a chance to fix the UK economy’s long-term problems
Milton Platt
Well-Known Member
Looking forward to this, starting next week ...
A quick Google says this is not an accurate figure.
Me? Great.
Here all Souverainists are celebrating.
Here all Souverainists are celebrating.
I just helped her make it.
Altfish
Veteran Member
But it was promised, it was in the Leavers' manifesto; so npow it must be delivered and not just by moving monies from other departments.
Augustus
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From the alt-right journal of choice the New Statesman:
Why the left keeps losing
John Gray
For the two wings of British progressivism – liberal centrism and Corbynite leftism – the election has been a profound shock. It is almost as if there was something in the contemporary scene they have failed to comprehend. They regard themselves as the embodiment of advancing modernity. Yet the pattern they imagined in history shows no signs of emerging. Any tendency to gradual improvement has given way to kaleidoscopic flux. Rather than tending towards some rational harmony, values are plural and contending. Political monotheism – the faith that only one political system can be right for all of humankind – has given way to inescapable pluralism. Progress has ceased to be the providential arc of history and instead become a prize snatched for a moment from the caprice of the gods.
In a droll turn, 21st-century modernity has turned out to be rather like Johnson’s beloved ancient classical world – although the flux we inhabit should temper any confident predictions of Conservative hegemony. Johnson’s invulnerable position in government masks the dominance of progressive ideas throughout much of British life. Even Labour, seemingly damaged beyond recovery, cannot be written off.
Progressive thinkers have reacted to the election result in different ways. Rationalists among them blame the first-past-the post electoral system. If only Britain had European-style proportional representation, the disaster they have experienced could have been avoided. It is obviously true that the result would not have been the same. Whether PR would have produced a progressive majority is another matter. If the 2015 election had been held under the D’Hont system used in elections to the European Parliament, Nigel Farage’s Ukip would have secured 83 seats in the Commons (it won nearly four million votes). In reality, voting patterns would be different under any kind of PR, but the far right would still play a larger part in the British political system than it does now. Progressives talk of building the kind of majority they want, as if it somehow already latently exists. More likely, parties of the far right would set the political agenda, as they do throughout much of the continent. If you want a European-style voting system, you get a European style of politics.
Other progressives prefer a demonological interpretation. Doodling their fever-dreams in green ink, they portray the election as having been hijacked by sinister global forces. Officially, they believe values and beliefs other than their own are errors that can be corrected by reason and education. In practice many among them have invoked an idea of omnipresent evil to explain humankind’s stubborn resistance to their efforts to improve it. Communist regimes pointed to saboteurs and foreign spies to account for the systemic failings of central planning. More recently, liberals have invoked Russian meddling and a global far-right network masterminded by Steve Bannon to explain their political defeats. Delusions of conspiracy are part of the mass psychology of progressivism, and will intensify in the coming months and years.
Taking another tack, avowed liberals carry on attempting to thwart the results of democratic choices – not only the referendum, but now a general election. Such attempts tend to be self-defeating, as American liberals will discover if impeachment solidifies Donald Trump’s base and opens his way to a second term as president. The anti-Brexit campaigner Gina Miller appears set to continue the alt-politics of legal warfare, but the attempt to install rule by lawyers can only have one result. The authority of the executive will be reasserted, and the British judiciary returned to a more modest role like the one it had before Tony Blair conjured up a Supreme Court one wet afternoon.
Why the left keeps losing