Frank Goad
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I think it would be cool if science one day proved jesus is real.Because then I think it would make atheists want to pray to jesus more.When I think of all the atheists that are dying without christ it makes me cry.
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I think it would be cool if science one day proved jesus is real.Because then I think it would make atheists want to pray to jesus more.When I think of all the atheists that are dying without christ it makes me cry.
I think it would be cool if science one day proved jesus is real.Because then I think it would make atheists want to pray to jesus more.When I think of all the atheists that are dying without christ it makes me cry.
I think it would be cool if science one day proved jesus is real.Because then I think it would make atheists want to pray to jesus more.When I think of all the atheists that are dying without christ it makes me cry.
Science has proved a lot of the bible
is false. What do you do with that information?
Sorry.Forgot.I have memory problems.
Christians believe that the moment someone dies, Jesus appears in front of them and he asks them to join him in heaven, if they are good people. So, don't cry.I think it would be cool if science one day proved jesus is real.Because then I think it would make atheists want to pray to jesus more.When I think of all the atheists that are dying without christ it makes me cry.
I think it would be cool if science one day proved jesus is real.Because then I think it would make atheists want to pray to jesus more.When I think of all the atheists that are dying without christ it makes me cry.
I believe that Jesus was real.What would happen if science proved Jesus was not the guy in the new testament but a really bad guy?
I believe that Jesus was real.
I believe that He was a violent anti-imperial guerrilla, and so got executed by the Romans.
Nowadays we call people like that terrorists.
But the ideology we call "Christianity" was mainly developed by a Roman agent, Saul of Tarsus. Jesus's real followers could hardly admit to associating with a terrorist, because they'd also get crucified. So, St. Paul created a new religion based on what the Apostles were willing to risk telling him about Jesus's Ministry, not what Jesus was really up to.
Tom
That would require far more than an internet post.What evidence led you to that conclusion?
I believe that Jesus was real.
I believe that He was a violent anti-imperial guerrilla, and so got executed by the Romans.
Nowadays we call people like that terrorists.
But the ideology we call "Christianity" was mainly developed by a Roman agent, Saul of Tarsus. Jesus's real followers could hardly admit to associating with a terrorist, because they'd also get crucified. So, St. Paul created a new religion based on what the Apostles were willing to risk telling him about Jesus's Ministry, not what Jesus was really up to.
Tom
That would require far more than an internet post.
Frankly, the enormous thread required to draw a basic outline is beyond my willingness.
By a lot.
Tom
My thoughts exactly. Add the Fourth Philosophy and the Sicarii and you have my picture of jesus
And i have seen his dads gravestone, no god involved.
Let me make this as simple and quick as possible.OK. I am genuinely interested though.
I can actually imagine it being a possibility but the evidence that I know of doesn't lead me there.
Are you guys referring to the Zealots who were against the Romans?
For me Jesus shows the signs of being a cult leader who hasn't fully matured in his role. I reach that possible conclusion by learning about modern cult leaders.
Let me make this as simple and quick as possible.
The story, as told, is bizarrely implausible and irrational and unevidenced. But as I came to understand the context from which it arose, it started to make some sense. By context, I'm including everything from circumstances of 1st century Judea to the political landscape when some bishops decided what to include in the creed and canon( and what to declare heresy).
Many of Jesus's most pointed Teachings and doings and parables, ( as quoted)that seemed irrational before, started making sense in a way that they hadn't before.
Tom
Yes.
My view is that JC was the illigitimate son on a roman soldier, his loathing of a bang and run father and the regime he represented soured him early in life. He went on to several anarchist and terror groups.
Christianity was put together long after his death from extracts of Saulus (a roman agent who helped capture JC but later regretted his act) and the life of John the Baptiser, with much goody goody stuff and miracles thrown in to entice the sheep.