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A huge problem with the JW religion:

Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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kjw47 said:
God isn't immoral-Mortals forced this system to be for now. He told everyone--he will not accept sin. They do not listen.
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"Sin" is a poorly defined concept. Besides the "God" of the JW's is easily refutable. If you do not believe that your God can lie then one cannot rationally believe in the God of either Genesis or Exodus.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Left Coast said:
I would love to see the actual "reason" written out that led you to those two conclusions. You're begging the question by calling it "creation" in the first place, when you haven't demonstrated that it was created at all.

How much formal science education do you have?

PS - Your religion in your profile has a typo.
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Technically two typos if one counts the use of upper case letters.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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Mestemia said:
Not really.
Sin is nothing more than going against the will/wishes of your chosen deity.
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The problem arises from what that deity seems to want in most religions. That is one of the reasons that there are thousands of sects of Christianity. If one cannot clearly define what one's deity wants, and "it is in my holy book" does not cut it because of the different interpretations that all religions seem to be subject to, then it cannot be well defined.
 
McBell

McBell

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Subduction Zone said:
The problem arises from what that deity seems to want in most religions. That is one of the reasons that there are thousands of sects of Christianity. If one cannot clearly define what one's deity wants, and "it is in my holy book" does not cut it because of the different interpretations that all religions seem to be subject to, then it cannot be well defined.
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Oh, you are talking about the concept, not the word itself...
My bad

Well looky there, it flat out says "concept" in your post...

Never mind me, still suffering the effects of last night......
 
kjw47

kjw47

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Left Coast said:
I would love to see the actual "reason" written out that led you to those two conclusions. You're begging the question by calling it "creation" in the first place, when you haven't demonstrated that it was created at all.

How much formal science education do you have?

PS - Your religion in your profile has a typo.
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Gods usage of science and math are perfect. Mans usage of science and math is destroying life for humankind and everything. They have created cancer for all of us though. These are the men you listen to.
 
Left Coast

Left Coast

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kjw47 said:
Gods usage of science and math are perfect. Mans usage of science and math is destroying life for humankind and everything. They have created cancer for all of us though. These are the men you listen to.
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More claims with no evidence. Much like the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society who have filled your head with these baseless ideas. These are the men you listen to.
 
danieldemol

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kjw47 said:
Gods usage of science and math are perfect. Mans usage of science and math is destroying life for humankind and everything. They have created cancer for all of us though. These are the men you listen to.
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Cancer is a natural occurrence. If God is a creator God then God created cancer.

Or do you think cancer is the invention of modern humans?

A short history of cancer
 
kjw47

kjw47

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Subduction Zone said:
By creationists. By people that have little to no understanding of the sciences.
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It doesn't take that much to realize their isn't a gazillion of a chance that trillions x trillions x trillions, etc, of atoms blew out in utter confusion during a big bang and a universe formed.
Intelligent design created this universe
 
kjw47

kjw47

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Left Coast said:
More claims with no evidence. Much like the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society who have filled your head with these baseless ideas. These are the men you listen to.
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No evidence of what? The teachings of Jesus back my teachers.
 
kjw47

kjw47

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metis said:
And you think you can speak for God, of course.
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I can share his views and Facts. All that know the real Jesus can. Because they listen to Jesus--Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God. The true followers do just that. They have studied the OT-NT over and over. Jesus' real teachers make sure it is accomplished as well.
 
kjw47

kjw47

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danieldemol said:
Cancer is a natural occurrence. If God is a creator God then God created cancer.

Or do you think cancer is the invention of modern humans?

A short history of cancer
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The rebellion in Eden caused cancer to be a reality now. But it is still fact, they are selling it to us and know they are. In 10 years-cancer will be the #1 profit maker all over this earth if Gods kingdom don't come first.
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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kjw47 said:
It doesn't take that much to realize their isn't a gazillion of a chance that trillions x trillions x trillions, etc, of atoms blew out in utter confusion during a big bang and a universe formed.
Intelligent design created this universe
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Sorry, but that is a self refuting claim. There is quite a bit of evidence for the Big Bang. I have yet to see any evidence for intelligent design.

Since you probably do not have an education in the sciences you probably do not understand the concept of evidence. Very very few creationists will allow themselves to understand this simple concept. Would you care to discuss it?
 
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