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if we lose religions data

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
I was thinking about whether we had childrens and then left them in a place where they could learn everything except religion or faith

No one will find faith in Jesus
They will not imagine that there is a god who came to earth to sacrifice himself
Likewise, other religions such as Hinduism or some of the Buddhist sects that believe in the incarnation of Deity or even Baha'i

They will never believe in any deity on earth because they will think they are a human element but it is mathematically or educationally superior

But they can easy think about that there is a great Creator outside the field in which they live

This is what I want to deliver
What if a world war occurred or we moved to live on another planet and lost all the information related to the scriptures

All beliefs will disappear, and only faith in the existence of hi Creator, the Risen One, which is the ancient God that Jews and Muslims believe in, will remain.

Faith in Jesus or any faith in human existence on Earth will not survive

Only the belief in the existence of a great supreme creator over the heavens

Children's who grow up without religions will have a questions of where they came from and will not be atheists
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
It may change religion, but if what the Baha'is say is true about there being manifestations, well, God could always manifest himself again among people.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I was thinking about whether we had childrens and then left them in a place where they could learn everything except religion or faith

No one will find faith in Jesus
They will not imagine that there is a god who came to earth to sacrifice himself
Likewise, other religions such as Hinduism or some of the Buddhist sects that believe in the incarnation of Deity or even Baha'i

They will never believe in any deity on earth because they will think they are a human element but it is mathematically or educationally superior

But they can easy think about that there is a great Creator outside the field in which they live

This is what I want to deliver
What if a world war occurred or we moved to live on another planet and lost all the information related to the scriptures

All beliefs will disappear, and only faith in the existence of hi Creator, the Risen One, which is the ancient God that Jews and Muslims believe in, will remain.

Faith in Jesus or any faith in human existence on Earth will not survive

Only the belief in the existence of a great supreme creator over the heavens

Children's who grow up without religions will have a questions of where they came from and will not be atheists
If this were to happen, the cosmos would send a new spiritual teacher who would teach true teaching that could lead people toward enlightenment. It is not we humans who need to "create in our mind" that there must be a God or a savior because the law of the universe will make sure we always have the possibility to find true teaching.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
I was thinking about whether we had childrens and then left them in a place where they could learn everything except religion or faith

No one will find faith in Jesus
They will not imagine that there is a god who came to earth to sacrifice himself
Likewise, other religions such as Hinduism or some of the Buddhist sects that believe in the incarnation of Deity or even Baha'i

They will never believe in any deity on earth because they will think they are a human element but it is mathematically or educationally superior

But they can easy think about that there is a great Creator outside the field in which they live

This is what I want to deliver
What if a world war occurred or we moved to live on another planet and lost all the information related to the scriptures

All beliefs will disappear, and only faith in the existence of hi Creator, the Risen One, which is the ancient God that Jews and Muslims believe in, will remain.

Faith in Jesus or any faith in human existence on Earth will not survive

Only the belief in the existence of a great supreme creator over the heavens

Children's who grow up without religions will have a questions of where they came from and will not be atheists
Why don't you think that they would turn to polytheism - as this has already happened once?
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I was thinking about whether we had childrens and then left them in a place where they could learn everything except religion or faith

No one will find faith in Jesus
They will not imagine that there is a god who came to earth to sacrifice himself
Likewise, other religions such as Hinduism or some of the Buddhist sects that believe in the incarnation of Deity or even Baha'i

They will never believe in any deity on earth because they will think they are a human element but it is mathematically or educationally superior

But they can easy think about that there is a great Creator outside the field in which they live

This is what I want to deliver
What if a world war occurred or we moved to live on another planet and lost all the information related to the scriptures

All beliefs will disappear, and only faith in the existence of hi Creator, the Risen One, which is the ancient God that Jews and Muslims believe in, will remain.

Faith in Jesus or any faith in human existence on Earth will not survive

Only the belief in the existence of a great supreme creator over the heavens

Children's who grow up without religions will have a questions of where they came from and will not be atheists

Doubtful they would all develop the same belief. Beliefs are as varied as individuals. A few though may gain enough power to impose their beliefs onto the others.

I suspect they would go a similar route starting with animism. Belief in individual spirits as forces of nature. This idea of an unseen monotheistic creator is fairly esoteric. Took man quite a while to develop.
 

Brickjectivity

Brickish Brat
Staff member
Premium Member
This is what I want to deliver
What if a world war occurred or we moved to live on another planet and lost all the information related to the scriptures

I was thinking about whether we had childrens and then left them in a place where they could learn everything except religion or faith

They will never believe in any deity on earth because they will think they are a human element but it is mathematically or educationally superior


They will not imagine that there is a god who came to earth to sacrifice himself
I disagree based on History. You would have to take away agriculture and return everyone to hunter gathering. Look at the History of Japan. Look at...uh the Egyptian History. Look at uh any place that has agriculture. This did not begin with Christianity. It began with the natural, continual, annoying habit of powerful politicians in agrarian societies to make deities of themselves. Jesus is merely the undoing of that -- the anti politician. With agriculture and large scale society you'd again have deified politicians and then a resistance movement which would need to have an anti - politician as a figure. Once again for thousands of years the populations would slave in the service of humans calling themselves gods. You'd need another Jesus of some kind. Somebody would have to, again, first rediscover monotheism. Then they would again have to peacefully resist against such self-deifying leaders and again be martyred, and they would once again need an anti - politician figure. All of the work done to free up the populations of the world would have to be done again. Once again they would look for abstract reasoning about the invisible God and come up with some kind of trinity/duinity/quadrinity or something else that you wouldn't like. Even if it was a monity you still wouldn't like something about it and would still find some way to label it as idolatrous. There would be some sort of rock in your shoes no matter what.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I was thinking about whether we had childrens and then left them in a place where they could learn everything except religion or faith

No one will find faith in Jesus
They will not imagine that there is a god who came to earth to sacrifice himself
Likewise, other religions such as Hinduism or some of the Buddhist sects that believe in the incarnation of Deity or even Baha'i

They will never believe in any deity on earth because they will think they are a human element but it is mathematically or educationally superior

But they can easy think about that there is a great Creator outside the field in which they live

This is what I want to deliver
What if a world war occurred or we moved to live on another planet and lost all the information related to the scriptures

All beliefs will disappear, and only faith in the existence of hi Creator, the Risen One, which is the ancient God that Jews and Muslims believe in, will remain.

Faith in Jesus or any faith in human existence on Earth will not survive

Only the belief in the existence of a great supreme creator over the heavens

Children's who grow up without religions will have a questions of where they came from and will not be atheists
Lord of the flies.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I was thinking about whether we had childrens and then left them in a place where they could learn everything except religion or faith

No one will find faith in Jesus
They will not imagine that there is a god who came to earth to sacrifice himself
Likewise, other religions such as Hinduism or some of the Buddhist sects that believe in the incarnation of Deity or even Baha'i

They will never believe in any deity on earth because they will think they are a human element but it is mathematically or educationally superior

But they can easy think about that there is a great Creator outside the field in which they live

This is what I want to deliver
What if a world war occurred or we moved to live on another planet and lost all the information related to the scriptures

All beliefs will disappear, and only faith in the existence of hi Creator, the Risen One, which is the ancient God that Jews and Muslims believe in, will remain.

Faith in Jesus or any faith in human existence on Earth will not survive

Only the belief in the existence of a great supreme creator over the heavens

Children's who grow up without religions will have a questions of where they came from and will not be atheists

Children are born without religion, (technically without god and therefore atheist). It is parenting, society, peer pressure etc that instills religion into them (some call this indoctrination and/or child abuse). If religion is not taught, if there is no knowledge of a god ever given to children their no god, no religion default will remain the status quo.
 

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
People seem to love making gods for themselves. Case in point.

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History would just repeat itself. They'd deify someone or something else. To me, it shows how much religions rely on their dogmas and doccuments to be relevant. Without those, you wouldn't be able to find their religious views manifesting in the world independently. Seems to be seperate from the reality we share altogether.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I was thinking about whether we had childrens and then left them in a place where they could learn everything except religion or faith

No one will find faith in Jesus
They will not imagine that there is a god who came to earth to sacrifice himself
Likewise, other religions such as Hinduism or some of the Buddhist sects that believe in the incarnation of Deity or even Baha'i

They will never believe in any deity on earth because they will think they are a human element but it is mathematically or educationally superior

But they can easy think about that there is a great Creator outside the field in which they live

This is what I want to deliver
What if a world war occurred or we moved to live on another planet and lost all the information related to the scriptures

All beliefs will disappear, and only faith in the existence of hi Creator, the Risen One, which is the ancient God that Jews and Muslims believe in, will remain.

Faith in Jesus or any faith in human existence on Earth will not survive

Only the belief in the existence of a great supreme creator over the heavens

Children's who grow up without religions will have a questions of where they came from and will not be atheists

In Hindu mysticism, all knowledge is on the inside, accessible to the well trained yogi. It all started because some person sat down, breathed deeply, saw light within his/her cranium, and decided to sit still enough to see where that lead him/her. He became the first rishi, and his/her history is washed away by the sands of time. Students came along, saw the wisdom there, and heard the ancient Vedantic truths. Over eons, this knowledge was lost many times, but always found again, by some ancient soul in a human body. Hence we have the name Sanatana meaning eternal. It cannot be lost, because it lies within. Yes, the language can change, the context can change, but it cannot be lost, because it's always just ... right ... there, to be rediscovered and brought to the surface again.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Children are born without religion, (technically without god and therefore atheist). It is parenting, society, peer pressure etc that instills religion into them (some call this indoctrination and/or child abuse). If religion is not taught, if there is no knowledge of a god ever given to children their no god, no religion default will remain the status quo.

Based on what research?
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
I was thinking about whether we had childrens and then left them in a place where they could learn everything except religion or faith

No one will find faith in Jesus
They will not imagine that there is a god who came to earth to sacrifice himself
Likewise, other religions such as Hinduism or some of the Buddhist sects that believe in the incarnation of Deity or even Baha'i

They will never believe in any deity on earth because they will think they are a human element but it is mathematically or educationally superior

But they can easy think about that there is a great Creator outside the field in which they live

This is what I want to deliver
What if a world war occurred or we moved to live on another planet and lost all the information related to the scriptures

All beliefs will disappear, and only faith in the existence of hi Creator, the Risen One, which is the ancient God that Jews and Muslims believe in, will remain.

Faith in Jesus or any faith in human existence on Earth will not survive

Only the belief in the existence of a great supreme creator over the heavens

Children's who grow up without religions will have a questions of where they came from and will not be atheists
Ricky Gervais once made an excellent argument....

Imagine for a second that for some weird reason, ALL human knowledge would evaporate overnight. Like, ALL of it. All religious lores and mythologies, all of science, everything.

First, obviously, many would die. After the dust settles following the apocalyptic collapse of society, dispersed tribes of survivers start the human journey over.

ALL religions that we know of today, would never see the light of day again.
Nobody would ever come up with the bible stories again or the bagavad ghita. More then likely, they'll invent completely different religions.


SCIENCE however, WOULD eventually return. Because all the same fact would be re-discovered. Some Newton/Einstein-style genius will unravel the laws of motions and gravity again. Thermodynamics, plate tectonics, planetary formation, planetary orbittal paths, heliocentrism, spherical earth, the galaxy, the billions of other galaxies, evolution, germs,....... All that would eventually be observed, analysed and studied again.

People would reinvent the wheel, agriculture, steam power, electricity, ....


It's a fun thought experiment.

Anyone who thinks about it for 2 seconds, would recognise the truth value of this point.


This is so, because religions are invented from imagination, while scientific processes are discovered by studying reality.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Based on what research?

Based on the fact babies are born blank and must learn everything, including bodily functions, as i mother of 3 i can validate that

Based on the fact christian parents raise Christian children, Muslim parents raise Muslim children, Hindu parents raise Hindu children, parents without religion raise children... Etc. Etc, etc

Based on the thousands of papers written on child development... Try
Google Scholar child development
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Based on the fact babies are born blank and must learn everything, including bodily functions, as i mother of 3 i can validate that

Based on the fact christian parents raise Christian children, Muslim parents raise Muslim children, Hindu parents raise Hindu children, parents without religion raise children... Etc. Etc, etc

Based on the thousands of papers written on child development... Try
Google Scholar child development

Assumption.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I was thinking about whether we had childrens and then left them in a place where they could learn everything except religion or faith

No one will find faith in Jesus
They will not imagine that there is a god who came to earth to sacrifice himself
Likewise, other religions such as Hinduism or some of the Buddhist sects that believe in the incarnation of Deity or even Baha'i

They will never believe in any deity on earth because they will think they are a human element but it is mathematically or educationally superior

But they can easy think about that there is a great Creator outside the field in which they live

This is what I want to deliver
What if a world war occurred or we moved to live on another planet and lost all the information related to the scriptures

All beliefs will disappear, and only faith in the existence of hi Creator, the Risen One, which is the ancient God that Jews and Muslims believe in, will remain.

Faith in Jesus or any faith in human existence on Earth will not survive

Only the belief in the existence of a great supreme creator over the heavens

Children's who grow up without religions will have a questions of where they came from and will not be atheists
"All beliefs will disappear, and only faith in the existence of hi Creator, the Risen One, which is the ancient God that Jews and Muslims believe in, will remain."

I agree with what I have colored in Magenta, please.
If Muslims children believers in Islam will be there, then Islam and Quran will also be with them . And there are obvious reasons for that. Right, please?

Regards
 

Earthtank

Active Member
Why don't you think that they would turn to polytheism - as this has already happened once?

There was a study and documentary (can't remember the name now) that showed people still living in the jungles/forest that have never been exposed to any "formal" religion to be believing and worshiping in a 1 single god as monotheists not polytheists. Also, logically speaking (if god does exist) it makes the most sense to have 1 single "supreme being" instead of multiple because when you have more than 1 "god" you really do not have a god.
 

TagliatelliMonster

Veteran Member
Is that a research? pls share the data and methodology.

It's an observation.

Do you disagree with it?
Do you disagree that the vast majority of religious people, follow the religion of the family they were born in?


Let's say some dude is born in a muslim family in afghanistan.
What will most likely end up being his religion, in your opinion?

Would you consider it reasonable if I say that he'll most likely become a jehova's witness or a mormon?
 
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