Why is there no outcry from the Christian Right against divorce?

[Jainarayan]

You don't go to church much, do you?

Why would I go to church? I'm an idol-worshiper destined to burn in Hell for eternity for not accepting Jesus as my savior.

I've yet to be in a church that approves of divorce, or one that fails to speak out against it. Also, some divorces are legitimate according to Jesus (Matthew 19:9). But I have been in a church that approves of same sex marriage, which is nothing more than institutionalized sin. And that's an abomination.

Ok, one more time:

Where is the lobbying and legislation to outlaw divorce? I don't care about pulpit pounding fire-and-brimstone sermons. I mean, proposed legislation to outlaw divorce comparable to the proposed legislation and public grandstanding against same sex marriage.

I'll answer it for you since you can't or won't... there is no proposed legislation to outlaw divorce comparable to the proposed legislation and public grandstanding against same sex marriage.

 

[columbus]

There's no rallies against a lot of different types of sin. But that doesn't mean those sins are approved.

That's a very weak dodge.
Why aren't there rallies against destructive sins like preemptive war and divorce? Why does abortion and marriage equality get so much attention from conservative Christians?
That's the question I'm asking, and the hypocrisy I'm pointing out.

The liberals and gay community have turned America into a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God did to them.

No, S&G were guilty of being inhospitable to strangers. Rather like Trump and his supporters' attitudes towards poor immigrants.
Tom

 

[epronovost]

There's no rallies against a lot of different types of sin. But that doesn't mean those sins are approved.

The liberals and gay community have turned America into a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God did to them.

Nobody has offered his two daughters as a prize to a rape mob yet so I guess we are still good to go.

Also we have a healthy number of iron chariots with some new perks. If God shows up, we will nail him back on a cross for him to cry in despair about being forsaken in no time.

 

[Jainarayan]

Nobody has offered his two daughters as a prize to a rape mob yet so I guess we are still good to go.

Also we have a healthy number of iron chariots with some new perks. If God shows up, we will nail him back on a cross for him to cry in despair about being forsaken in no time.

I've promised śrī kṛṣṇa that I would #dobetter at refraining from mocking or being snarky towards the J-Man. It's not very dharmic of me.

 

[epronovost]

I've promised śrī kṛṣṇa that I would #dobetter at refraining from mocking or being snarky towards the J-Man. It's not very dharmic of me.

He who loves well chastises well. If you love your deity, tease it once in while. If it can't laugh of itself, it's too puny to be your god.

 

[Jainarayan]

He who loves well chastises well. If you love your deity, tease it once in while. If it can't laugh of itself, it's too puny to be your god.

Krishna loves a good practical joke and snappy repartee. As long as it's not mean or malicious.

 

[viole]

What kind of Biblical evidence do you want prohibiting same sex marriage ? Your point is ridiculous. The Bible only mentions marriage in the context of a man and woman. Those who practiced homosexuality were executed at the time of Christ and the Apostles. Christ said not one thing regarding this law . Christian law is clear, homosexuals in the world can do whatever they chose, homosexuals in the Church must either repent and abstain, or be excluded from the Church. Paul makes this abundantly clear.

You are right about divorce. However, it has become acceptable in many denominations, which is no surprise, as we were told the corrupt world and many of itś practices would seep into many congregations.

Cool. Gay marriage did the same, since the official Lutheran church in Sweden happily marry gays nowadays. For instance.

Ciao

- viole

 

[Twilight Hue]

The OP was about why Christians don't obey what the Bible tells them to do when it comes to divorce. Or is it OK for Christians to cherry-pick what parts of the Bible they will honor and which they will ignore?

This is referring to those who are selective in what they focus on, not Christians who are consistent

I suppose we should be grateful Christians cherry pick. Otherwise it would be the same as Isis and Al-Qaeda.

 

[columbus]

I suppose we should be grateful Christians cherry pick. Otherwise it would be the same as Isis and Al-Qaeda.

The reason I like Christianity as a concept better than Islam as a concept, is because Christians are quicker to discard the primitive morals and ethics of Scripture than Muslims.
I don't care what anybody believes, it's what they do that matters.

Jews are better than either Christians or Muslims. They stopped expecting anybody else to follow their most primitive ethics centuries ago.
Tom

 

[sun rise]

I suppose we should be grateful Christians cherry pick. Otherwise it would be the same as Isis and Al-Qaeda.

If the cherry picking just becomes having personal prejudices override the fundamental teachings, it's another matter. If someone says that prohibitions against behavior etc should not be interpreted literally, that's fine with me. But if someone says that about divorce but not about something else, to me that's making someone's personal opinions most important.

 

[Spartan]

Nobody has offered his two daughters as a prize to a rape mob yet so I guess we are still good to go.

Also we have a healthy number of iron chariots with some new perks. If God shows up, we will nail him back on a cross for him to cry in despair about being forsaken in no time.

That's not how the Bible says the Second Coming is going to go down. Read Revelation 21:8 to see who it is who really goes down.

 

[Spartan]

That's a very weak dodge.
Why aren't there rallies against destructive sins like preemptive war and divorce? Why does abortion and marriage equality get so much attention from conservative Christians?
That's the question I'm asking, and the hypocrisy I'm pointing out.
Tom

This is all just a desperate attempt to try to take the focus off the illicit gay agenda, which not only is trying to get people to approve of their sinful lifestyle, but to also celebrate it. Not going to happen. Ever.

 

[Spartan]

Why would I go to church? I'm an idol-worshiper destined to burn in Hell for eternity for not accepting Jesus as my savior.



Ok, one more time:

Where is the lobbying and legislation to outlaw divorce? I don't care about pulpit pounding fire-and-brimstone sermons. I mean, proposed legislation to outlaw divorce comparable to the proposed legislation and public grandstanding against same sex marriage.

I'll answer it for you since you can't or won't... there is no proposed legislation to outlaw divorce comparable to the proposed legislation and public grandstanding against same sex marriage.

Well, why don't you start a national anti-divorce movement and see how that works out for you.

 

[epronovost]

That's not how the Bible says the Second Coming is going to go down. Read Revelation 21:8 to see who it is who really goes down.

Is it the part when I'm supposed to say with my best impression of a tough guy voice: "He can talk the talk, but can he walk the walk."

/joke

 

[Shad]

Not even a good try. That's no indication that marriage is only between a man and a woman. Male-female marriage is of course the majority, with the chances being higher of those marriages having problems. Nowhere does it prohibit or even speak about same sex relationships.

That isn't required as there are verses about relations between the same-sex as well while the only verses about marriage are about a man and woman. All you have done is load your question thus committed a fallacy. Next!

Show me efforts to have divorce outlawed.

Show me proposed legislation. Anyone can show you the legal battles over same sex marriage.

You are changing your claim now. Outcry is not legislation. Legislation was not even in the OP. Ad hoc rescue

Care to try again?

Let me know when you can figure out the difference between outcry and legislation then try again. I refuted your claim so you change it. Next!

Definition of OUTCRY
Definition of LEGISLATION

 

[Jainarayan]

That isn't required as there are verses about relations between the same-sex as well while the only verses about marriage are about a man and woman. All you have done is load your question thus committed a fallacy. Next!

Really? So because something isn’t addressed, it’s invalid? Uh huh, I see. I see what a bad analogy you’re making.

You are changing your claim now. Outcry is not legislation. Legislation was not even in the OP. Ad hoc rescue

Surely you can do better than that?

I refuted your claim so you change it. Next!

You did no such thing. If you can’t extrapolate and discern the subject here, the problem is not mine.

 

[Shad]

Really? So because something isn’t addressed, it’s invalid? Uh huh, I see. I see what a bad analogy you’re making.

It is addressed. You want a specific sentence to be in the Bible. That isn't going to happen. Now go look at marriage references, none are endorsing same-sex but heterosexual relationships. You are presenting a loaded question, nothing more, to cover for your inability to read and understand the text. Next!

Surely you can do better than that?

No need. You changed your point after I refuted it. I pointed out this change out. Next!

You did no such thing. If you can’t extrapolate and discern the subject here, the problem is not mine.

Wrong. Find 1 verse in the bible endorsing same-sex marriage. You wont ergo my point stands. Try again.

Amusing that you say I should extrapolate yet you didn't bother with the Bible. Hilarious.

https://www.azleg.gov/legtext/50leg/1r/bills/sb1187p.pdf
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...ld-require-classes-before-filing-for-divorce/

 

[Jainarayan]

Well, why don't you start a national anti-divorce movement and see how that works out for you.

Why should I? I’m not Christian, I’m not hung up on who gets married or divorced. I’m pointing out hypocrisy.

 

[stvdv]

by linking God to man and the rest of humanity to women, we are basically led to assume that God, being God, occupies a higher position of power, respect and authority much like the man he is linked to. Meanwhile, the rest of humanity owes him defferance and obediance as the women we are linked too implies. The comparison assumes we should view men as superior to women and God as superior to humans. Do you believe God and humans are and should be equals?

Thank you for your very clear reply. I hope I can answer as clear as you wrote.

* Your words sound "Biblical God related". And, knowing this view also, I do understand your reasoning.
* My Spiritual view is from Sanathana Dharma, as my Master Teaches it. That might have caused the confusion.

In short (my view): All men and women are "embodiments of the Divine", so there is no inferior or superior . Even Bible says "all are children of God". And when you follow logic ... child grows up, so being child of God ... guess what ... you realize, growing up, that you indeed are God.

So, I guess this answers your question.

Spoiler: Quotes leading to above reply

They (Christian Right) were so fixated on prohibiting same sex marriage, really without any valid Biblical citations, that they completely ignored Matthew 7

I agree with this. Matthew 7 tells us not to judge, but some Christians are so fixated on same sex marriage that they judge like crazy

The prohibition against same sex marriage is just wrong, at least in today's world. Doesn't matter what Moses or Paul says.

I also agree with this. This is just plain and simple discrimination. Seems those who do this are still 100 years behind

I'd be more impressed by a Bible that taught that God is as much a woman as a man

Same for me. Hence I love the Hindu Scriptures and my Master who all show us this lesson

that love transcends sex

Exactly. Hence my next reply

My Master used to say "God is the only man, you are all women".
I like that one. At least it humbles humans.

All human are women implies that human should "transcend sex" (and stop discriminating)
(In Bible language "all are children of God" ... "do not judge" ... "Love thy neighbor as thyself" ... etc.etc.)

It doesn't humble anyone to say that women are inferior to men.

You misread it. I did not say anywhere that women are inferior.
I said it humbles human, meaning, if all are women, then there is no issue that one human is better than the other, because of being male or female.

I sort of agree with the reading of Phaedrus on your quote. While this might not have been your intent or that of the person you quoted

1) It was not my intend, hence I replied to Phaedrus that he misread what I wrote
2) It was not the intend of the person I quoted

 

[Jainarayan]

Now go look at marriage references, none are endorsing same-sex

But there are none prohibiting it, but there are verses prohibiting divorce.

No need. You changed your point after I refuted it. I pointed out this change out. Next!