Why is there no outcry from the Christian Right against divorce?

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Well yes. But if you get hives, STDs, etc the universe is telling you that particular thing may not be a good fit.

You can get those things doing hetero sex, though. Since the bible doesn't want the woman to sleep around but seems to have little issue with men doing so, I'm sure a lot of innocent women (girls?) got STDs back in the day.

 

[Jainarayan]

Also. Anal sex is gross. Just sayin'

The first thing everyone thinks of.

 

[sealchan]

Well yes. But if you get hives, STDs, etc the universe is telling you that particular thing may not be a good fit.

Also. Anal sex is gross. Just sayin'

If you go to a grade school you might catch a cold or the flu. If you judge people you might be judged.

Does everything have to be the same for everyone? If two people think each other likes something gross who wins?

 

[stvdv]

My Master used to say "God is the only man, you are all women".
I like that one. At least it humbles humans.

It doesn't humble anyone to say that women are inferior to men.

You read things that I did not write.

You wrote it. There is no question of that.

However, there is sometimes an alternative interpretation that is unseen.

You misread it. I did not say anywhere that women are inferior.

I said it humbles human, meaning, if all are women, then there is no issue that one human is better than the other, because of being male or female.

 

[Spartan]

Why is there no outcry from the Christian Right against divorce?

One reason is that no one is having "Divorce Pride" parades and dressing up like like they're trying out for porn films.

 

[epronovost]

You misread it. I did not say anywhere that women are inferior.

I said it humbles human, meaning, if all are women, then there is no issue that one human is better than the other, because of being male or female.

I sort of agree with the reading of Phaedrus on your quote. While this might not have been your intent or that of the person you quoted, by linking God to man and the rest of humanity to women, we are basically led to assume that God, being God, occupies a higher position of power, respect and authority much like the man he is linked to. Meanwhile, the rest of humanity owes him defferance and obediance as the women we are linked too implies. The comparison assumes we should view men as superior to women and God as superior to humans. Do you believe God and humans are and should be equals?

 

[Shad]

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They (Christian Right) were so fixated on prohibiting same sex marriage, really without any valid Biblical citations, that they completely ignored Matthew 7. Or maybe they have an edited versions?

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"Tawk amongst yahselves"...

The Bible says marriage is between a man and woman Matthew 19:4-6, 1 Corinthians 7:1-16 and Mark 10:6-9.

The Evangelical Right have been against divorce for decades. You didn't look very hard or in fact looked at all in my opinion.

 

[Samantha Rinne]

You can get those things doing hetero sex, though. Since the bible doesn't want the woman to sleep around but seems to have little issue with men doing so, I'm sure a lot of innocent women (girls?) got STDs back in the day.

Yes, I know you can. This is the point I'm making. It's not all "Oooh there's something uniquely bad about homosexuality." The only real thing uniquely bad about male-male sex is that you're pretty much stuck doing oral or anal. And I've read statistical analyses on how bad anal is for disease (it's where poop comes out of for **** sake). Almost as if God is telling us "If I become a human again, and we get into a gay session, I wanna actually have my **** sucked, not be pegged from behind."

But yes, sex of all sorts is risky, and the risk begins to jump when you start (1) experimenting with other partners in other woed cheating on your partner, (2) or trying inherently messed up sex positions like the standing 69 (yeah that's a thing, despite the whole blood rush to your brain deal) or any of these (reverse cowgirl apparently can break certain organs)
The 5 Worst Sex Positions Ever | Men's Health

Let's review. In this world God allows anything. But not everything is good for you.

No, I don't believe God sends people to Hell. I believe people send themselves to Hell by blaming themselves, by distancing themselves, and by hurting themselves. God wants to help us out of there. Always. Eternal means outside time. It doesn't mean neverending or irreversible.

 

[sealchan]

Yes, I know you can. This is the point I'm making. It's not all "Oooh there's something uniquely bad about homosexuality." The only real thing uniquely bad about male-male sex is that you're pretty much stuck doing oral or anal. And I've read statistical analyses on how bad anal is for disease (it's where poop comes out of for **** sake). Almost as if God is telling us "If I become a human again, and we get into a gay session, I wanna actually have my **** sucked, not be pegged from behind."

But yes, sex of all sorts is risky, and the risk begins to jump when you start (1) experimenting with other partners in other woed cheating on your partner, (2) or trying inherently messed up sex positions like the standing 69 (yeah that's a thing, despite the whole blood rush to your brain deal) or any of these (reverse cowgirl apparently can break certain organs)
The 5 Worst Sex Positions Ever | Men's Health

Let's review. In this world God allows anything. But not everything is good for you.

No, I don't believe God sends people to Hell. I believe people send themselves to Hell by blaming themselves, by distancing themselves, and by hurting themselves. God wants to help us out of there. Always. Eternal means outside time. It doesn't mean neverending or irreversible.

So would you agree that the Bible shouldn't call out same sex relations per se any more than smoking or over eating? And that same sex marriage, as a spiritual union is just as valid as two fat smokers of the opposite sex getting married?

 

[Jainarayan]

The Bible says marriage is between a man and woman Matthew 19:4-6, 1 Corinthians 7:1-16 and Mark 10:6-9.

Not even a good try. That's no indication that marriage is only between a man and a woman. Male-female marriage is of course the majority, with the chances being higher of those marriages having problems. Nowhere does it prohibit or even speak about same sex relationships.

The Evangelical Right have been against divorce for decades. You didn't look very hard or in fact looked at all in my opinion.

Show me efforts to have divorce outlawed. Show me proposed legislation. Anyone can show you the legal battles over same sex marriage.

Care to try again?

 

[Jainarayan]

One reason is that no one is having "Divorce Pride" parades and dressing up like like they're trying out for porn films.

That is one of the most stupid, inane and asinine comments I've ever had the misfortune to read.

I've heard of West Indian and Puerto Rican Day parades, but I have no idea what they are like or what goes on. How do you know so much about gay pride parades? Your knowledge of the gay community and its practices is encyclopedic. Care to share?

 

[Muffled]

Because no one should stay in a bad marriage.

I believe that is due to hardness of heart. The Paraclete (Holy Spirit) teaches us to love one another and that eliminates strife but the world says we don't have to put up with differences and we can fight about them.

 

[Muffled]

The OP was about why Christians don't obey what the Bible tells them to do when it comes to divorce. Or is it OK for Christians to cherry-pick what parts of the Bible they will honor and which they will ignore?

This is referring to those who are selective in what they focus on, not Christians who are consistent

The Bible allows divorce so what in the world are you saying that Christians are not adhering to?

 

[Muffled]

Nor should anyone use ancient, arbitrary, irrational, and unsubstantiated superstitions/social norms as a moral compass in the modern, civilized world.

I believe we don't. We don't adhere to any worldly supersticions or Pagan ones either. We stick to the word of God which is better than anything this world has to offer.

 

[Spartan]

That is one of the most stupid, inane and asinine comments I've ever had the misfortune to read.

I've heard of West Indian and Puerto Rican Day parades, but I have no idea what they are like or what goes on. How do you know so much about gay pride parades? Your knowledge of the gay community and its practices is encyclopedic. Care to share?

I don't know of any Christian church that promotes and thrills to divorce to the extent that gays promote and celebrate their same sex debauchery and sin. So, no Adultery Pride parades. How's that for a comparison! LOL!

 

[Jainarayan]

I don't know of any Christian church that promotes and thrills to divorce to the extent that gays promote and celebrate their same sex debauchery and sin. So, no Adultery Pride parades. How's that for a comparison! LOL!

Ok, let me put it as simply as I can...

Why don't Christians seek to have divorce outlawed as they have sought to have same sex marriage outlawed? No mention is made in the Bible of same sex marriage, but there is mention of divorce being prohibited. It's a simple question, really. Can you answer that without launching into a prurient foray into gay sex?

 

[columbus]

One reason is that no one is having "Divorce Pride" parades and dressing up like like they're trying out for porn films.

That's not much of a reason.
I don't find Gay Pride parades attractive either. So, like me, you are free to avoid them.

However, Jesus was pretty clear about divorce. And even in my non-theistic world view quite right. People divorcing over less than dire conditions, especially when there are dependent children involved, are really at the root of the destruction of the family.
But when did you last see a rally against divorce? Or a political battle trying to forbid divorce by changing the Constitution of a state?
Never, in my experience.
Tom

 

[Spartan]

Ok, let me put it as simply as I can...

Why don't Christians seek to have divorce outlawed as they have sought to have same sex marriage outlawed? No mention is made in the Bible of same sex marriage, but there is mention of divorce being prohibited. It's a simple question, really. Can you answer that without launching into a prurient foray into gay sex?

You don't go to church much, do you? I've yet to be in a church that approves of divorce, or one that fails to speak out against it. Also, some divorces are legitimate according to Jesus (Matthew 19:9). But I have been in a church that approves of same sex marriage, which is nothing more than institutionalized sin. And that's an abomination.

 

[Spartan]

That's not much of a reason.
I don't find Gay Pride parades attractive either. So, like me, you are free to avoid them.

However, Jesus was pretty clear about divorce. And even in my non-theistic world view quite right. People divorcing over less than dire conditions, especially when there are dependent children involved, are really at the root of the destruction of the family.
But when did you last see a rally against divorce? Or a political battle trying to forbid divorce by changing the Constitution of a state?
Never, in my experience.
Tom

There's no rallies against a lot of different types of sin. But that doesn't mean those sins are approved.

The liberals and gay community have turned America into a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. And you know what God did to them.

 

[sooda]

I believe that is due to hardness of heart. The Paraclete (Holy Spirit) teaches us to love one another and that eliminates strife but the world says we don't have to put up with differences and we can fight about them.

Your beliefs don't really matter. I mean you can and should stay in a bad marriage if that's what you believe, but you have no right to force that on anyone else.