FAGGOTS- FIREMAN SAM AND NON-HALA MEAT!

[SomeRandom]

I'm not sure I'd want to ask too loudly for a certain one of your Aussie brands either. I'm not big on PC culture, but it still absolutely amazes me that this hasn't been rebranded:

I don’t think anyone here even knows what that means (in terms of slur words) to be fair.

Though we still sell these

So take that as you may

 

[Revoltingest]

I do think political correctness has gotten out of hand. Intent and context are key.

For one year when I was a licensed real estate broker,
our continuing education from the state listed some banned
words.....
- "Great view" (because it could offend the vision impaired)
- "Family room" (because not having a family was a protected group)
- "Walk in closet" (because some were differently abled)
Even the state must've realized the absurdity of this,
for we never heard mention of it again.

I wish I'd saved our course booklet.

 

[Bob Jones]

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Faggots and potatoes? An old and traditional recipe served in Wales has become the latest victim of Liberal Fascist who seek world domination. Google has dropped restaurants in Wales for advertisement purposes due to this word. What Next?
Fireman Sam! A very successful mascot has now become another victim of the Liberal elites who interpret this as male domination! What Next?
In Australia, a local butcher store made a joke by placing a small sign on his front door. (words to this effect) Non Hala certified meat here! Well naturally members of the religion of peace complained only to be directed to an agency which supervises public advertisement. Yes the butcher was sanctioned by the board.
What is the solution? I would suggest to the United Kingdom and also to the common wealth, a written law protecting all speech. Good Luck!

Whine less ...

(BTW, I would find advertising "Non Kosher certified meat here" anything but funny.)

 

[Brickjectivity]

Sometimes the autocensor does go a bit too far. I used to practice one of the four major schools of Japanese Karate. The style is ****oryu. Just because the first four letters are also a censored word it automatically gets stars when nothing like that was intended at all. If anything it will cause people to have the wrong idea.

Yes and this is also true for some Jewish words like the first word of Genesis. Bere****. If you don't like it then maybe you should stop using **** as a dirty word so we can finally take the filter off. You know -- work for social change. I'm kidding about that, but I just want to point out that its an ironclad rule no exceptions.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

What good has the Islamic culture brought to the West? I think nothing.

...Only problems.

Well, there's math, science, medicine, and some damn good music and art.

 

[Twilight Hue]

If your religion is causing you to take offense at what other people say, you are probably in the wrong religion.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Well, there's math, science, medicine, and some damn good music and art.

They are also eternally blessed for discovering that aribica beans taste really good roasted, ground, and steeped.

 

[Bob Jones]

Well, there's math, science, medicine, and some damn good music and art.

Can you point out any material discoveries or innovations?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Can you point out any material discoveries or innovations?

Shouldn't coffee be enough?!

Surgical tools and techniques
Al-Zahrawi - Wikipedia

Optics
Ibn al-Haytham - Wikipedia

Algebra
Algebra - Wikipedia

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Shouldn't coffee be enough?!

Surgical tools and techniques
Al-Zahrawi - Wikipedia

Optics
Ibn al-Haytham - Wikipedia

Algebra
Algebra - Wikipedia

I can't believe I didn't put this earlier!

Guitar - Wikipedia

"Although the development of the earliest "guitars" is lost in the history of medieval Spain, two instruments are commonly cited as their most influential predecessors, the European lute and its cousin, the four-string oud; the latter was brought to Iberia by the Moors in the 8th century.[5]"

And what would America be without the guitar?!

 

[Revoltingest]

Can you point out any material discoveries or innovations?

I think a better question is what have they done for us lately?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Shouldn't coffee be enough?!

Surgical tools and techniques
Al-Zahrawi - Wikipedia

Optics
Ibn al-Haytham - Wikipedia

Algebra
Algebra - Wikipedia

And the question is what happened to Muslim to culture? Why did they change from a leader in culture and the sciences to lagging dead last? This article has some interesting claims. It attributes the change to the rise of a particular movement:

:" But the Islamic turn away from scholarship actually preceded the civilization’s geopolitical decline — it can be traced back to the rise of the anti-philosophical Ash’arism school among Sunni Muslims, who comprise the vast majority of the Muslim world."



Why the Arabic World Turned Away from Science

In other words Islam may have been infected by fundamentalism. A lesson for us all. I think that in the case of Christianity Martin Luther may have had a hand in changing the culture that led to changes. Not because of any of his beliefs in regards to science, but because the Reformation that he sparked weakened the Catholic Church. But then I am just spitballing there.

 

[Jedster]

There is food which is non-halal certified it’s called bacon

How does advertising non-halal certified food discriminate any more or less than advertising halal certified food?

Non-halal/ non-kosher should be certified for those that don't want to eat it and/or for religious reasons.
For instance Sikhs are forbidden to eat anything killed in a ritualistic way.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Non-halal/ non-kosher should be certified for those that don't want to eat it and/or for religious reasons.
For instance Sikhs are forbidden to eat anything killed in a ritualistic way.

I would say that if one has special needs or beliefs that they need to look out for themselves. Now if a food is "certified Kosher" then it better be. It would be false advertising if that was not the case. But someone that makes a product only needs to include the ingredients on the label. If a person is too lazy to read I do not have that much sympathy for them. Once again if a food is certified that it meets the requirements of a religion then it better be, otherwise a person needs to check for themselves.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

And the question is what happened to Muslim to culture? Why did they change from a leader in culture and the sciences to lagging dead last? This article has some interesting claims. It attributes the change to the rise of a particular movement:

:" But the Islamic turn away from scholarship actually preceded the civilization’s geopolitical decline — it can be traced back to the rise of the anti-philosophical Ash’arism school among Sunni Muslims, who comprise the vast majority of the Muslim world."



Why the Arabic World Turned Away from Science

In other words Islam may have been infected by fundamentalism. A lesson for us all. I think that in the case of Christianity Martin Luther may have had a hand in changing the culture that led to changes. Not because of any of his beliefs in regards to science, but because the Reformation that he sparked weakened the Catholic Church. But then I am just spitballing there.

Note: Am only able to skim the posted article currently as I am posting between weekend chores.

Is this a phenomenon general to modern religion, though? As science began to slough off the religious assumptions that often drove academics, it drove away those who refused to accept proven theories that countered traditional beliefs.

It is likely true that some modern Muslim countries lack the scientific spirit that used to drive progress and are certainly mired in some pretty anti-humanitarian philosophies (a trend in other religious communities as well), but Muslims still contribute to the cultural diversity of the west despite some posters claims. Muslim art, food, music, and belief are beautifully woven into American culture. Muslim charity is still evident.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Note: Am only able to skim the posted article currently as I am posting between weekend chores.

Is this a phenomenon general to modern religion, though? As science began to slough off the religious assumptions that often drove academics, it drove away those who refused to accept proven theories that countered traditional beliefs.

It is likely true that modern Muslim countries lack the scientific spirit that used to drive progress and are certainly mired in some pretty anti-humanitarian philosophies (a trend in other religious communities as well), but Muslims still contribute to the cultural diversity of the west despite some posters claims. Muslim art, food, music, and belief are beautifully woven into American culture. Muslim charity is still evident.

It is a phenomenon of some modern religions, but not all. And it is a cautionary tale to fundamentalists. Not all Muslims are fundamentalists, but fundamentalism greatly harmed the Islamic world. I would hate to see it happen to others. For example here in the U.S. deny much of modern science and would drag everyone else down with them. Lucky for us the Constitution helps us in opposing those actions. The problem is not with Islam itself but within a philosophy that religion that can infect any religion.

 

[Augustus]

:" But the Islamic turn away from scholarship actually preceded the civilization’s geopolitical decline — it can be traced back to the rise of the anti-philosophical Ash’arism school among Sunni Muslims, who comprise the vast majority of the Muslim world."

Why the Arabic World Turned Away from Science

In other words Islam may have been infected by fundamentalism. A lesson for us all.

That's a somewhat oversimplistic theory. Philosophical output actually increased after al-Ghazali for a start (and he inadvertently helped promote the ideas of Avicenna by explaining his arguments to refute them).

The GA declined gradually largely because the conditions that caused it declined.

The Golden Age was the result of conquering several civilisations with strong scientific traditions , translation of many texts, introducing a lingua franca making translated works more accessible, wealth and stability in a unified empire, etc.

It was an 'Arabic' GA in the sense of the lingua franca, but it was largely Persian, Levantine, etc.

A look at this map gives one of the main reasons things started to decline:

 

[Bob Jones]

Note: Am only able to skim the posted article currently as I am posting between weekend chores.

Is this a phenomenon general to modern religion, though? As science began to slough off the religious assumptions that often drove academics, it drove away those who refused to accept proven theories that countered traditional beliefs.

It is likely true that some modern Muslim countries lack the scientific spirit that used to drive progress and are certainly mired in some pretty anti-humanitarian philosophies (a trend in other religious communities as well), but Muslims still contribute to the cultural diversity of the west despite some posters claims. Muslim art, food, music, and belief are beautifully woven into American culture. Muslim charity is still evident.

Are you serious?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Are you serious?

Ooh, I missed the last line of his posts. I would say that some Muslims are charitable, but Muslim countries tend to be the opposite of that. Fundamentalism is a force against charity.