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Where would the USA have been if it was not for the lies against Trump?

BSM1

What? Me worry?
And why exactly should Americans care?


Exactly. America is in a no-win position no matter what we do in this world. Most American only wish that the rest of the world could have a taste of the same liberties we feast on every day.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
So true... so very true.

GWB had seriously harmed the USA's reputation. With Trump the damage is probably irreparable. At my most optimistic it will take three decades for the USA to be taken seriously again as a nation deserving respect.

In politics a month is forever
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Exactly. America is in a no-win position no matter what we do in this world. Most American only wish that the rest of the world could have a taste of the same liberties we feast on every day.

Much of the rest of the world has similar or improved liberties. Such as the liberty to enjoy reasonably priced or free healthcare. The liberty not to have your home taken off you or starve is you hit a bad patch.
 

SugarOcean

¡pɹᴉǝM ʎɐʇS
Hell, I am not even an American, and I am impressed with the results Trump achieved in two and a half years.
He not only did all these great things for his people in the USA, but he is changing the World. he is unstoppable against the Chinese thiefing communist slave mongers, North Corean warmonger, Venezuella socialist bloodsuckers, UE, Canada, Mexican, and African passengers, but he works his arse off for his people fighting the communist, socialist and globalist liberal news networks who openly participate in fabricating lies, against any conservative, and moral fabric of the people of the United states.

Well, I wonder...
Where would the USA have been if the Democrats, Clinton, Obama, and the socialist news houses did not trap Trump in this fullscale treason against the president of the United States of America, in their fabricated "Russia Collusion" hoax?
if Hillary Clinton prevented the Steel Dossier, stopped this whitch hunt, and worked together with the Democrats, to join hands with the Republicans for the benefit of the people of the USA.
The Poor man. He had to use Twitter to inform the people of the USA on the truth!
And these traitors had the media, the Money, and they lied together with a corrupt leadership in the FBI, CIA, CFR and even in the DOJ.

Now, just let your immagination run loose for a moment.
Where would the USA be if it was not for the lies of these Traitors against Donnald Trump?
Liar media doesn't make Trump look bad. Nor do those who propagate the lies of Treason, etc.. against him. Rather, liar media and liar Trump haters make themselves look devoid of honor, character, and truth.
When the truth comes out that says Trump is not what the liar media and the anti-Trumpers claimed about him and the enemies of this nation insist the truth is the lie, it is demonic evil at work. It goes beyond the butt hurt Democrat creatures that preferred Hillary as President.
That even in itself reiterates the lack of character, honor, and truth those Democrats suffer from when they preferred a woman for which all the evidence the Lying Left tried to mount aganst Trump actually sticks to Hillary R. Clinton and Traitor Barack H. Obama.

Where would America be if it wasn't for the Demonic horde that still promotes the lies against Trump? Well, we'd not look like a large portion of our community, Democrats, are in collusion to slander and defame our President. And as such those Democrats under taking that effort wouldn't look like Seditionists to their fellow American's and make that sorry impression of working from the inside to destroy their own country.

While our President musters through the BS because he's a patriot. His enemies both foreign and domestic don't realize Trump navigated for years the filthy politics of NYC in order to become a highly successful developer in NYC.
The Mafia that exists in D.C. is nothing compared to the syndicate that exists in Manhattan.
And yet Trump prevailed. He prevailed there and he's prevailed as our President. And prayerfully when we get the majority in both houses in 2020 and Trump is re-elected, which he shall be, finally he can get even more done than he already has.
He wont have to fight the Left wing, Democrat, obstructionists as he has to now. The Seditionists and Traitors on the Left in the House are a shame to the legacy of their life's time. Prayerfully they won't be there in that position for long come 2020.


See, it is a lie that Trump is a Traitor. All evidence actually proves Barack H. Obama is the Traitor. And his choice for Secretary of State was guilty of Espionage.
They're out of office now but the betrayal of this nation that they perpetrated for eight years will ripple across our future for years to come.
Every lie the liar Left slant media and the Liar anti-Trumpeters promote against President Donald Trump is actually true crime among the Left.
That's why they deflect the truth of that onto Trump with their lies. It's like a magician. If he keeps you busy watching his right hand you won't see the tricks up the sleeve of his left.

The Democrats of this nation are the enemy of this country. Trump will prevail.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Much of the rest of the world has similar or improved liberties. Such as the liberty to enjoy reasonably priced or free healthcare. The liberty not to have your home taken off you or starve is you hit a bad patch.

Americans have ideas about "freedom' that
do not always make sense.

See GWB and 911..."they hate our freedom"

Freedom is not like water with just one kind,
and that you can measure in discreet units!
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Much of the rest of the world has similar or improved liberties. Such as the liberty to enjoy reasonably priced or free healthcare. The liberty not to have your home taken off you or starve is you hit a bad patch.

You, obviously, have no idea what true freedom is. More's the pity.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
It seems that your country needs a leader like President Trump.
Why? Just because i am poor does not mean we need a new leader, Norway do have leader from the Party of the right side in politics so i think this is a problem. but atually Norway is not that bad to live in. Just to expensive for poor people
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Again, sez who? There is nothing in this world that cannot be produced in the US. We don't need you. Period.

I think you missed my point. With modern technology, communication and travel are becoming more fluid and the rest of the world is a lot closer to us than it used to be. This will continue to increase.

Also, with technology and climate change comes the problems related to health, pollution, and resources becoming scarce or hoarded. This is inherently a worldwide problem. Also, nuclear weapons. With nuclear powers comes the need for international diplomacy.

As population rises, not only are more resources needed, but local conflicts tend force people out and can turn bigger and involve more powerful nations.

Countries are no longer able to be isolationist.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Why? Just because i am poor does not mean we need a new leader, Norway do have leader from the Party of the right side in politics so i think this is a problem. but atually Norway is not that bad to live in. Just to expensive for poor people

I friend of mine has just returned from a cruise to the Nordic Fjords and he said it was very expensive.

With a sea full of oil, you would think that a wealthy country would be able to ensure that all its citizens could enjoy more than one meal per day.

Maybe your country needs better leadership.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
It does. And gas

List of oil and gas fields of the North Sea - Wikipedia

And still approximately 20% of uk citizens live in poverty

It depends what you call poverty.

I have worked in the homes of people on benefits. They are usually the ones with the big screen TV’s and the latest Smartphone’s, etc.

I know of one family that gets their junk food and milkshakes delivered to their house instead of making their own wholesome meals.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I friend of mine has just returned from a cruise to the Nordic Fjords and he said it was very expensive.

With a sea full of oil, you would think that a wealthy country would be able to ensure that all its citizens could enjoy more than one meal per day.

Maybe your country needs better leadership.
The problem is that long time ago the government decided that only 2% of the outcome from oil should be added to the spending each year. so the rest of the governmental budget for a year comes from tax money we must pay every month. we pay 24% tax on income earnings
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
It depends what you call poverty.

I have worked in the homes of people on benefits. They are usually the ones with the big screen TV’s and the latest Smartphone’s, etc.

I know of one family that gets their junk food and milkshakes delivered to their house instead of making their own wholesome meals.

Oh wow, you have worked with a few people? There are around 13 million people officially in poverty in the uk? Have you worked with more than 0.0001% of them?

And still the UK has its oil fields which sort of puts the hex on your claim that "If the UK had a sea full of oil, I would expect it to ensure that its citizens could afford more than one meal per day."
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
Liar media doesn't make Trump look bad. Nor do those who propagate the lies of Treason, etc.. against him. Rather, liar media and liar Trump haters make themselves look devoid of honor, character, and truth.
When the truth comes out that says Trump is not what the liar media and the anti-Trumpers claimed about him and the enemies of this nation insist the truth is the lie, it is demonic evil at work. It goes beyond the butt hurt Democrat creatures that preferred Hillary as President.
That even in itself reiterates the lack of character, honor, and truth those Democrats suffer from when they preferred a woman for which all the evidence the Lying Left tried to mount aganst Trump actually sticks to Hillary R. Clinton and Traitor Barack H. Obama.

Where would America be if it wasn't for the Demonic horde that still promotes the lies against Trump? Well, we'd not look like a large portion of our community, Democrats, are in collusion to slander and defame our President. And as such those Democrats under taking that effort wouldn't look like Seditionists to their fellow American's and make that sorry impression of working from the inside to destroy their own country.

While our President musters through the BS because he's a patriot. His enemies both foreign and domestic don't realize Trump navigated for years the filthy politics of NYC in order to become a highly successful developer in NYC.
The Mafia that exists in D.C. is nothing compared to the syndicate that exists in Manhattan.
And yet Trump prevailed. He prevailed there and he's prevailed as our President. And prayerfully when we get the majority in both houses in 2020 and Trump is re-elected, which he shall be, finally he can get even more done than he already has.
He wont have to fight the Left wing, Democrat, obstructionists as he has to now. The Seditionists and Traitors on the Left in the House are a shame to the legacy of their life's time. Prayerfully they won't be there in that position for long come 2020.


See, it is a lie that Trump is a Traitor. All evidence actually proves Barack H. Obama is the Traitor. And his choice for Secretary of State was guilty of Espionage.
They're out of office now but the betrayal of this nation that they perpetrated for eight years will ripple across our future for years to come.
Every lie the liar Left slant media and the Liar anti-Trumpeters promote against President Donald Trump is actually true crime among the Left.
That's why they deflect the truth of that onto Trump with their lies. It's like a magician. If he keeps you busy watching his right hand you won't see the tricks up the sleeve of his left.

The Democrats of this nation are the enemy of this country. Trump will prevail.

Do you folks seriously think this much worship of a political leader is healthy? There's a reason we call the President "Mr. President" and not "His Majesty."
 
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