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Consciousness is Relative

Neutral Name

Active Member
Does consciousness come in different levels?

Do other species have consciousness but not on the same level as humans or is it limited to humans?

If say for example a bacteria will retreat from high heat, does it have consciousness?

Is consciousness like a 6th sense?

Is consciousness an inherited trait or an always exiting sense?

Beauty, my brother. You get it!

Oh, and I love Morgan Freeman!
 

John muir

Member
Love is an indisputable fact.
I and the indeed! Lowest form starts with one neuron me.. And arrives at the highest order not quantified unbounded and thus free. When it is quantified in any form that is not that ever that is less than that. The grave mistake an insane man made in the development of naive set theory he called the universial a set its not. Thus the pardadox. Sonits in math ecen the obvsesion to quanify as reality its not but a mere shadow on the cave walls.

In a very oregon a cery great wrestler wrote one flew over the cuccoos nest. Plato was a great wrestler. Plato saw in socrates wrestling but not with the body but with the mind and in socrates he saw how socrates moved and how socrates always won. The writings of plato of course are not seen with clear eyes today because they are not socrates merely staring at the shadows on the cave wall right here. Linguistics and writing interesting topic makes you smart and stupid both at the same time. Ya forget to experience and then reflect and pretty soon this is all you are experiencing debates with single neurons grouped in likes.

You dont play fair you hace more than just one neuron firing cheater. Kill the eye i and well there ya fo now you are a free 100 billion neurons talking to a rock called i and me"

Btw i too was a great wrestler of rhe mat!! Just taken here into the brain just like that. Under appreciated art i say.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
The point is: Consciousness is relative
Consciousness is relativistic. This simple adjustment frames consciousness as a verb or an adjective rather than a noun, shifing more towards process-based thinking and away from substance-based thinking. (Notice how I used relativistic things like contrast between process and substance and contextual framing as an aid to facilitate understanding {bringing into consciousness?}
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Can you see this post?
Yes. I can also pick out the patterns of recognizable forms deemed letters. Furthermore, my pattern recognition can pick out patterns within the letters to form words. Furthermore, these this pattern recognition process (root meaning of the word "intelligence,") can pick out abstract concepts being conveyed by these words. Furthermore, my pattern recognition facility can also pick out patterns contained within the conveyed concepts, and make adjustments to the perceived pattern of concepts, and create my own recognizable visual pattern that can be interpreted by other pattern recognition bases and faithfully reproduce the pattern conveyed within their own subjective mind, recognize more patterns, and convey these patterns back via the creation of another visual text communication.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic Bully ☿
Premium Member
Yes. I can also pick out the patterns of recognizable forms deemed letters. Furthermore, my pattern recognition can pick out patterns within the letters to form words. Furthermore, these this pattern recognition process (root meaning of the word "intelligence,") can pick out abstract concepts being conveyed by these words. Furthermore, my pattern recognition facility can also pick out patterns contained within the conveyed concepts, and make adjustments to the perceived pattern of concepts, and create my own recognizable visual pattern that can be interpreted by other pattern recognition bases and faithfully reproduce the pattern conveyed within their own subjective mind, recognize more patterns, and convey these patterns back via the creation of another visual text communication.
Of course, too much pattern recognition effort put into the exchange can result in apophenia. (Which might be exploited by some.) ;)
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Yes. I can also pick out the patterns of recognizable forms deemed letters. Furthermore, my pattern recognition can pick out patterns within the letters to form words. Furthermore, these this pattern recognition process (root meaning of the word "intelligence,") can pick out abstract concepts being conveyed by these words. Furthermore, my pattern recognition facility can also pick out patterns contained within the conveyed concepts, and make adjustments to the perceived pattern of concepts, and create my own recognizable visual pattern that can be interpreted by other pattern recognition bases and faithfully reproduce the pattern conveyed within their own subjective mind, recognize more patterns, and convey these patterns back via the creation of another visual text communication.
Can you hear this?
 

Neutral Name

Active Member
Okay, I'll play. What different ways (types) of being conscious are there? Like, what are my choices?


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I already stated quite a few: awake, asleep, unconscious (still has a consciousness under many circumstances), mentally ill, using drugs, in an isolation chamber, dead, hypnotized, mentally disabled, receiving subliminal messages, involved with your subconscious mind to a great extent, overwhelmed with too many distractions, aware, unaware, daydreaming, I don't remember the rest but there are a few more. Consciousness is what your mind is capable of seeing or realizing. it can be deluded. It is not necessarily what you see in front of you at any given moment. That could be a dream or a lack of reality but what is reality anyway?
 
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