What Irks You Most About Atheists, Agnostics, And Non-Believers?

[Bob the Unbeliever]

You should read some fairy stories.

Fairy folk are rarely portraid as good

Indeed-- in that respect, both Fairies and gods are quite similar.

Very much so, in fact-- so it's with Good Reason that many atheists often compare god-claims with fairy claims.

In truth? The fairy claims do not promise to torture forever, some poor human who's "crime" is being skeptical.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

I quote from your linked article and you accuse me of cowardly microaggressions. Not just microaggressions but cowardly microaggressions.

Was it this...(my emphases)

“It suggests that religious individuals may cling to certain beliefs, especially those which seem at odds with analytic reasoning, because those beliefs resonate with their moral sentiments,” said PhD student Jared Friedman, a co-author of the study.



Or was it that I pointed out that in a study about atheists, apparently no atheists were studied?

Or was it that I showed that I was not impressed by suggesting that you had not dazzled us,

Are you being triggered?

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

This type of rubbish

Except that it's not rubbish: Most atheists do know the bible far better than those who claim it as a 'moral guide'.

Proof is in the pudding. I've lost track of the number of times when an atheist had to school a theist about what is actually in the bible...

 

[ecco]

Did you notice this part?

The majority of participants in the study identified as Christian or non-religious; Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu and Muslim participants also took part.
What? No atheists?!? That's one heck of a good study.

Well atheists tend to be grouped under non belief

Obviously

Not obviously at all.
Deists are non-religious but they are certainly not atheists.
Agnostics are non-religious but they are certainly not atheists.
There are people who believe in (a God, god, gods) who are not religious.

 

[ecco]

I am not projecting anything. Young people tend to look up to others. When a young person discovers atheism they often look to famous and outspoken for guidance and confirmation of their newfound atheism. It is a well known human practice that even atheists are not magically immune from. Hero worship. There is a strong psychological need to have role models, heroes and idols to look up to. Where you get the idea that atheists young and old have somehow been vaccinated from this need is beyond me.

To each his own. I realized the silly nature of God and the Bible around age ten. I never sought out, or felt a need to seek out, anyone who believed as I did.

I've never been into hero worship of any sort. The closest I ever came to being awestruck when I was seated a couple of seats away from Y. A. Title.

Not trying to imply right or wrong - just differences.

 

[Darkforbid]

Indeed-- in that respect, both Fairies and gods are quite similar.

Very much so, in fact-- so it's with Good Reason that many atheists often compare god-claims with fairy claims.

In truth? The fairy claims do not promise to torture forever, some poor human who's "crime" is being skeptical.

Yes they do,

 

[The Reverend Bob]

To each his own. I realized the silly nature of God and the Bible around age ten. I never sought out, or felt a need to seek out, anyone who believed as I did.

I've never been into hero worship of any sort. The closest I ever came to being awestruck when I was seated a couple of seats away from Y. A. Title.

Not trying to imply right or wrong - just differences.

That's you. Other people have a deep seated need for role models and heroes, including atheists.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

Yes they do,

I have heard plenty of tales of the Fey pulling some innocent poor soul into their world to toy with him for millennia if not forever

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Yes they do,

So. Your complaint that comparing Fairies to God(s) is utterly without merit, then?

Gotcha. Maybe you should issue a retraction, then?

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

I have heard plenty of tales of the Fey pulling some innocent poor soul into their world to toy with him for millennia if not forever

It sounds to me, that comparing God(s) to Fairies is actually an excellent analogy, then...

 

[The Reverend Bob]

It sounds to me, that comparing God(s) to Fairies is actually an excellent analogy, then...

Actually no...

 

[Darkforbid]

Not obviously at all.
Deists are non-religious but they are certainly not atheists.
Agnostics are non-religious but they are certainly not atheists.
There are people who believe in (a God, god, gods) who are not religious.

Well you could always look up the paper in question. You'll find it quite equal

 

[The Reverend Bob]

I also hate it when atheists think that people have no reason to be irk at some of them even when some of them act like jerks

 

[LuisDantas]

Millions buy their books, watch their videos, listen to their podcasts, go to their speaking tours, etc. but @The Reverend Bob is 'projecting' to suggest that some of these people may indeed look up to them, be inspired by them and take guidance from them?

Pretty much that, yes.

 

[ecco]

Some characteristics that I'm not fond of which may be present among my fellow irreligionists:

That many have an excessive faith in both their, and our species', ability to be consistently rational.

Punctuation my friend.

Their ability to be rational and our species' ability to be rational.

Punctuation cannot correct poor sentence structure, my friend.

Are you trying to say that you are not fond of your fellow irreligionists, like me, having an excessive faith in both my, and my species', ability to be consistently rational?

Do I have it right?

Why would you separate me and people who believe as I do from the rest of the species?

Considering that I do not believe that my species has the ability to be consistently rational, I guess I'm not part of your "many".

 

[Augustus]

Pretty much that, yes.

Have you never actually noticed that, among humans, it is quite common for some people to look up to some other people?

 

[Darkforbid]

Except that it's not rubbish: Most atheists do know the bible far better than those who claim it as a 'moral guide'.

Proof is in the pudding. I've lost track of the number of times when an atheist had to school a theist about what is actually in the bible...

Well I've read a lot of research making that claim

The survey most quoted by atheist takes Catholic understanding/beliefs then scores Christians wrong if their understanding is not Catholic doctrine

 

[ecco]

That many have an excessive faith in both their, and our species', ability to be consistently rational.

Ignoring that, we are still left with your assertion that many of us have "an excessive faith in ... our species', ability to be consistently rational."

Thank you for illustrating my point. It's these pesky religions that make us so irrational...

Was that your point?

From your original post, it seemed you were saying that many irreligious people like you (and me) have an excessive faith that members of our species have an "ability to be consistently rational".

I certainly do not share that viewpoint. I don't think that our species has an "ability to be consistently rational".

Now you are saying that religions make us irrational. But then who is this us? How is it that we are now suddenly irrational?

 

[Augustus]

Punctuation cannot correct poor sentence structure, my friend.

Or poor reading comprehension...

Are you trying to say that you are not fond of your fellow irreligionists, like me, having an excessive faith in both my, and my species', ability to be consistently rational?

Do I have it right?

No. I said many atheists have an excessive faith in their ability to be rational, and our species' ability to be rational.

Sorry to disappoint you, but you weren't in my thoughts at all.

Why would you separate me and people who believe as I do from the rest of the species?

Why would you still insist on misrepresenting a very basic point even after being corrected on it?

Considering that I do not believe that my species has the ability to be consistently rational, I guess I'm not part of your "many".

Well done. Give the man a coconut.

Do you also accept that you are not consistently rational?

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

Actually no...

Really? Why? Just saying "is not" or "I am offended" isn't sufficient reason.