Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
According to the Bible its right and necessary to kill your child if they worship another god. Ill take the morality of the 21st century anyday.
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Good News for Gays
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Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Science and medicine do not agree, and attempts to alter sexual orrientation have been denounced and condemned as dangerous and destructive.
So you can control your natural hetero attraction? You can switch it over to gay, with your mind? If there is such a thing as control in the attraction to which gender, surely it goes both ways?
This is the biggest problem with religious folks.
They confidently believe that their opinions are from a Higher Power, so evidence and reason go out the window. They are so caught up in their own ego that they don't want to hear about reality.
Tom
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Is that why there are tons of homosexuals who are theist?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Yup. They believe their spoon-fed "wants" are directly from god and they have to force it on everyone. I really cant say it surprises me some of the most "post-christian" cities in America are far greater at "love thy neighbor" and minding the motes in their own eye than those thumping their Bibles and pointing out how little one hour a week is to dedicate to god. I kind of hope the Bible is real just so I can enjoy watching Jesus getting especially OT on punishing those who claimed to love him the most.
Not THE truth...YOUR truth. And being human (I'll give you that much) you can very well be wrong. Ignorance can be an immense contributor to being wrong. So can unjustified feelings of self-righteous purity, probably the most dangerous of human errors.
Many years ago I was a member of a local group called the Interfaith Forum. We met monthly to talk about religious beliefs.
One of the regulars was David. He drove over an hour each way to participate.
David was an articulate, informed, Bahai. Living in southern Indiana, which was a bit difficult for anyone who isn't a Christian. I know that.
I knew him and he knew me, I'm a gay atheist Catholic etc. This was before the SCOTUS ruling on marriage equality, but while Governor Pence was trying to add marriage inequality to the Indiana state constitution. I asked him if he thought that it should be.
He said yes. He said that he didn't have a problem with gay people, but Bahaullah says that God does. So he does. I pressed him a bit, because it mattered to me. "Why do you want gay people to be prevented from having basic civil equality?".
He was pretty clear. He doesn't have any personal opinions. He couldn't say why he thought that Doug and I shouldn't be allowed to get married. He just believed whatever Bahaullah said that God said and so he will say it.
Evidence, reason, truth, none of that matters. Some human told him what to believe, and so he does. His religion doesn't allow truth, it's all about which human tells you what to believe. He picked his authority, and he won't believe anything except what that human tells him to believe.
That's when I realized that Bahai is just another religion. People making up stuff about God, and believing it regardless of reality.
Tom
So... You're happy? Well that's a load of carp.
I stopped listening to him when I heard Krishna play his bansuri (it’s a flute). He has an infinitely better sense of humor and compassion. And sense of style... he be smooove as silk wit da ladies.
Agreed. I was wondering the same thing. What would possess a person to believe and speak this way?
Just kidding...
That is good news for gays.
And about time.
LOLOL I've started a thread trend. 
You're welcome RF!
P. S. - The gays start all the best trends.
P. P. S. - My alliteration was better.
You're welcome RF! P. S. - The gays start all the best trends.
P. P. S. - My alliteration was better.
Let's hope it's a refrigerated load of carp. Dead fish smell very bad after a very short time. Kind of like hate, actually...
You told me a story in this thread Tom, that story is one reason.
I have now pulled out of the thread with this reply and I should have never posted in the thread to start with, so sorry to all and I am happy you have good news.
I wish all well and happy.
Regards Tony
As you have mentioned reality, I will offer that we all see reality differently.
This is the reality I see Tom. It is advice I see I should have implement. I will use that advice and make the change in my own self in the future.
Letter on responding to attitude changes on homosexuality
All the best, Regards Tony
I'll let you have the last word.
Tom