RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
I guess the big picture. But I do enjoy the present. It's good, for now.
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Reconsidering Non-theism
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RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
Well then it's better to not exist than to exist. Unless if of course it's all a cultural term called sin.They don't believe the Bible is true, so there is no need to prove them wrong.
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
I'm walking away from Christianity not because the words of the Bible are all wrong but because I think the God of the Bible is likely to not exist. But I don't know. (Agnosticism) I could be wrong and be right back to Christianity tomorrow if I'm honest. What I am trying to do right now is just be critical with my thinking.
InChrist
Free4ever
I think, according to the scriptures, for the born again believer it is based on what Christ did and does.
But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Cor. 15:57
For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. Eph. 2:10
syo
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Yup. They are full of miracles.
In my opinion, you are looking here and there but not where you are required to look.
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
What does he do?
InChrist
Free4ever
I suppose since you are asking this question you have never known Jesus, His love, His constant presence, His comfort, His strength, or His new life in your life, correct?
I think the God of the Bible clearly does not exist. If there is a God he/she can only be derived via philosophy, not religion. Revealed religions and revealed spiritual paths are not trustworthy sources of truth and knowledge.
Since the Bible and Christianity are provably false, there is no reason to consider any of their truth claims; they should all be rejected out of hand.
I think what is not knowable is this: whether there is a God. But what is certainly knowable is this: that if there is a God, he/she is nothing like the Christian conception of God.
Shantanu
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In order to prove or disprove the existence of God whether or not He is like the Christian conception, one needs to have an scientifically sound experimental strategy.
wellwisher
Well-Known Member
The answer is humans have free will and choice. Jesus offers a path, among other possible path, where freedom from sin is possible. However, this is not the only path available to free will. There are also forces at work, that make the correct choice, look like the wrong choice, causing sin to remain.
Picture you come to a cross roads where there are three doors. One of the doors leads to escape from sin. The other two lead to sin, with one door less sinful than the other. This is the symbol of Jesus on the cross between two thieves. If you lack faith, you will need to depend on others to help you choose. This is not an easy choice if you are given bad information.
Consider the collusion delusion, run by the Democrat party, against President Trump. The same political group, that ran this scam, also tries undermine the Christian religion anytime it can; atheist blame game. This same leadership group was able to deceived a wide range of otherwise good people, inducing then to take a faux reality path, that lead to the sin of bearing false witness. They had faith in the wrong thing, so their sin was not seen for what it was, until the light appeared.But in the mean time sin was given full freedom.
Although this induction was evil, this experiment, which ran to fruition, was very useful, because it shows what can happen to large groups of people ,so the wrong door is chosen and sin remains, Th sin remains due to unconsciousness of right and wrong, because of faux reality.
Big Government is far more needed when there is sin. If we were all sinless, and everyone would joyfully be their brother's keeper, the welfare state, police state and even the regulatory state would not be needed. This sacrifice of power is not for everyone. Many will work to cloud the air so the door of freedom is not chosen, so power can remain.
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
Are you being condescending?
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
I'd agree with the conception of God point.
Still, I think the Bible's spiritual statements can be false and even some ethical positions are wrong and there can still be a good point here and there. It's like reading any piece of literature.
Yes. So we don't know whether or not there is one.
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
But why do people still choose the wrong path when sin is not greater than God?
Where is God when you get the bad information? He lets people be deceived.
Yes, I agree. This is why I don't read fiction.
I agree that the existence of God cannot be proven. But I think there is good philosophical justification for the kind of God I mention, a God who is good and beautiful and who did not create anything causing suffering. This is not the God of the Bible; that kind of God clearly does not exist.
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
You can't investigate a being that is completely transcendent and completely immanent at the same time. That's like investigating the personhood of oxygen.
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
Mmmm. I do.