This thread is linked closely to an earlier thread: An underlying mental world out there .
I however felt that the thoughts of Andrei Linde deserved a separate thread on its own.
https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...1425656584247/universe-life-consciousness.pdf
The author says:
Then he goes on to consider the possibilty that a physicist may create the Universe in a Laboratory. He questions:
In the final section 9 "Quantum Cosmology and nature of consciousness", he becomes sceptical and questions as below:
He avers
Andrei Linde is a hardcore physics man. He uses physics and analytical logic to conclude that without conscious observation/s, the universe will not move. He further suggests:
I enjoyed reading the paper immensely. I invite physicist members to enjoy.
I however felt that the thoughts of Andrei Linde deserved a separate thread on its own.
https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...1425656584247/universe-life-consciousness.pdf
The author says:
"...There remained one point which was hidden from us and which remained unexplained: the moment of creation of the universe as a whole. The mystery of creation of everything from nothing could seem to be too great to be considered scientifically.
With the development of inflationary cosmology the situation somewhat changed. The possibility that the universe eternally re-creates itself in all its possible forms does not necessarily resolves the problem of creation, but pushes it back to indefinite past. By doing so, the properties of our world become totally disentangled from the properties of the universe at the time when it was born (if there was such time at all). In other words, one may argue that the properties of our world do not represent the original design and cannot carry any message from the Creator. ..."
With the development of inflationary cosmology the situation somewhat changed. The possibility that the universe eternally re-creates itself in all its possible forms does not necessarily resolves the problem of creation, but pushes it back to indefinite past. By doing so, the properties of our world become totally disentangled from the properties of the universe at the time when it was born (if there was such time at all). In other words, one may argue that the properties of our world do not represent the original design and cannot carry any message from the Creator. ..."
Then he goes on to consider the possibilty that a physicist may create the Universe in a Laboratory. He questions:
"Does this mean that our universe was created by a physicist hacker? Does this mean that only physicists can read the message of God? .."
In the final section 9 "Quantum Cosmology and nature of consciousness", he becomes sceptical and questions as below:
"A possibility described above represents an ultimate example of the arrogance of science. One may consider this possibility seriously, because it shows that there may be nothing beyond physics and technology in the act of creation of the universe. However, is it conceivable that our understanding of the universe is too simplistic? Is it possible that we are making a conceptual mistake at the moment when we are making an obvious assumption that the universe is real, and that it encompasses everything?"
He avers
"Thus we see that by an investigation of the wave function of the universe as a whole one sometimes gets information which has no direct relevance to the observational data, e.g. that the universe does not evolve in time. In order to describe the universe as we see it one should divide the universe into several macroscopic pieces and calculate a conditional probability to observe it in a given state under an obvious condition that the observer and his measuring apparatus do exist. Without introducing an observer, we have a dead universe, which does not evolve in time. Does this mean that an observer is simultaneously a creator?"
Andrei Linde is a hardcore physics man. He uses physics and analytical logic to conclude that without conscious observation/s, the universe will not move. He further suggests:
"Is it not possible that consciousness, like space-time, has its own intrinsic degrees of freedom, and that neglecting these will lead to a description of the universe that is fundamentally incomplete?...
.....Is it possible to introduce a “space of elements of consciousness,” and investigate a possibility that consciousness may exist by itself, even in the absence of matter, just like gravitational waves, excitations of space, may exist in the absence of protons and electrons?"
.....Is it possible to introduce a “space of elements of consciousness,” and investigate a possibility that consciousness may exist by itself, even in the absence of matter, just like gravitational waves, excitations of space, may exist in the absence of protons and electrons?"
I enjoyed reading the paper immensely. I invite physicist members to enjoy.