Congratulations to the British People

[Notanumber]

Another expert speaks and tells the truth.

Power to the people!

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

If anyone does two terms as an MEP, you are set up for life and you never need to work again.

Do you mean like Nigel Farage?

 

[Altfish]

Another expert speaks and tells the truth.

Power to the people!

Pre-EU I used to visit Eire at least once a year to go fishing. Ireland was lovely but still in the 19th Century, it was like a time-warp. Donkeys were still a common mode of transport, I'm talking the 1970s and 80's here.
Since joining the EU the economy has transformed and they have become a net contributor (I've not checked that I am taking on trust what the Irexiters say). So now they want to leave. It makes Brexit look sensible.

 

[Notanumber]

Do you mean like Nigel Farage?

He has never denied it, but he has used it to benefit the people of the UK.

 

[Notanumber]

Pre-EU I used to visit Eire at least once a year to go fishing. Ireland was lovely but still in the 19th Century, it was like a time-warp. Donkeys were still a common mode of transport, I'm talking the 1970s and 80's here.
Since joining the EU the economy has transformed and they have become a net contributor (I've not checked that I am taking on trust what the Irexiters say). So now they want to leave. It makes Brexit look sensible.

It sounds like they had a much better quality of life pre-EU.

 

[Altfish]

It sounds like they had a much better quality of life pre-EU.

Oh, don't get me wrong, it was lovely for a visitor but the locals were impoverished and poor. Running water and mains electric were optional.
We used to catch bream - they are bony and horrible to eat - but often the locals would come out to us and ask up for some of our fish for their supper. We gladly obliged.

 

[Notanumber]

Oh, don't get me wrong, it was lovely for a visitor but the locals were impoverished and poor. Running water and mains electric were optional.
We used to catch bream - they are bony and horrible to eat - but often the locals would come out to us and ask up for some of our fish for their supper. We gladly obliged.

Do we know if they are happier and more content now than they were back then?

 

[Altfish]

Do we know if they are happier and more content now than they were back then?

I assume you are joking but if not you are proving what I thought...Brexit is all about taking us back to the 19th Century, Empire, no Votes for Women, no safety regulations, steam trains, damp hovels to live in, high childhood mortality, no NHS, etc., etc.,

 

[Notanumber]

I assume you are joking but if not you are proving what I thought...Brexit is all about taking us back to the 19th Century, Empire, no Votes for Women, no safety regulations, steam trains, damp hovels to live in, high childhood mortality, no NHS, etc., etc.,

All these locals were suffering all that while you took advantage of them and enjoyed your fishing.

 

[Altfish]

All these locals were suffering all that while you took advantage of them and enjoyed your fishing.

You do have a warped mind, they welcomed us with open arms. We brought money into their region. We drank in their pubs, ate in their cafes bought petrol and food.
Many of the poorest areas also had the best fishing.

If that is taking advantage of them you'd better ask the Irish Tourist Board why they promoted it and sent us brochures and put on road shows.

 

[LuisDantas]

He has never denied it, but he has used it to benefit the people of the UK.

By a very innovative understanding of "benefit"...

 

[Notanumber]

You do have a warped mind, they welcomed us with open arms. We brought money into their region. We drank in their pubs, ate in their cafes bought petrol and food.
Many of the poorest areas also had the best fishing.

If that is taking advantage of them you'd better ask the Irish Tourist Board why they promoted it and sent us brochures and put on road shows.

It seems it was not as bad you made it out to be here then.

no Votes for Women, no safety regulations, steam trains, damp hovels to live in, high childhood mortality, no NHS, etc., etc.,

 

[Altfish]

It seems it was not as bad you made it out to be here then.

So 'seems' now takes precedent over experience - a bit like Gove's famous, "We're all tired of experts"

 

[Notanumber]

By a very innovative understanding of "benefit"...

When you are dealing with a corrupt system a smart politician like Nigel will use it to benefit his country.

The UK is desperately in need of as many smart politicians as it can muster at this particular point in time instead of all those sheep in politicians clothing.

 

[Notanumber]

So 'seems' now takes precedent over experience - a bit like Gove's famous, "We're all tired of experts"

What are you on about?

 

[Altfish]

What are you on about?

You, trying to downplay the EU's influence on the great improvement in Eire's economics and prosperity.

 

[LuisDantas]

When you are dealing with a corrupt system a smart politician like Nigel will use it to benefit his country.

Whatever you are talking about seems to be quite divorced from this world.

The UK is desperately in need of as many smart politicians as it can muster at this particular point in time instead of all those sheep in politicians clothing.

That much is actually true, doubtlessly for reasons quite contrasting from those that you mean.

 

[Altfish]

When you are dealing with a corrupt system a smart politician like Nigel will use it to benefit his country.

Farage only cares about one thing, himself.
He has made his money off politics (Mainly the EU) and is wealthier than all the 'people' he represents. No more a Man of the People that Henry VIII

The UK is desperately in need of as many smart politicians as it can muster at this particular point in time instead of all those sheep in politicians clothing.

Yes, but the likes of Adolf von Batten and Stephen Yaxley Lennon are not what we are looking for.
SYL tries to crowdfund his every move

 

[Notanumber]

You, trying to downplay the EU's influence on the great improvement in Eire's economics and prosperity.

I would like to know what the current suicide rate is compared to what it was in the 1970s and 80's and has there been an increase in the use of anti-depressants.

 

[Altfish]

I would like to know what the current suicide rate is compared to what it was in the 1970s and 80's and has there been an increase in the use of anti-depressants.

Ah, that's now a measure of EU success...ok, now all I can find is 2001 to 2016 and they are fairly steady.
Suicide – National Suicide Research Foundation
There has been an increase in the raw figures from 1916 to 2014 but part of this increase is likely to be linked to the more comprehensive reporting of suicide as a cause of death today compared with 100 years ago. I believe it still is today but suicide was a heinous crime according to the Catholic Church.

Anyway, we digress. Prior to the EU youngsters in Ireland sought prosperity by migrating, many came to the UK