The Lord's Name in Vain

[Fool]

what is the possible issue with taking the Lord's name in vain in christianity? judaism?


is this seen as a possible issue in any of the hindu schools?


zoroastrianism? any other religion that speaks of a holy name?

 

[viole]

what is the possible issue with taking the Lord's name in vain in christianity? judaism?


is this seen as a possible issue in any of the hindu schools?


zoroastrianism? any other religion that speaks of a holy name?

Well, Christians name the Lord in vain all the time. When they pray, for instance.

Ciao

- viole

 

[savagewind]

what is the possible issue with taking the Lord's name in vain in christianity? judaism?


is this seen as a possible issue in any of the hindu schools?


zoroastrianism? any other religion that speaks of a holy name?

I understand that to take the Lord's Name in vain means to use it for one's own purpose. Religion does that. We speak for the Lord, they say. That is taking the name in vain.

 

[lukethethird]

what is the possible issue with taking the Lord's name in vain in christianity? judaism?


is this seen as a possible issue in any of the hindu schools?


zoroastrianism? any other religion that speaks of a holy name?

Christ if I know.

 

[Fool]

Christ if I know.

wouldn't jesus have broken this commandment; if he used it exclusively for promoting himself?

 

[savagewind]

It is likely that Name just means what one will become. But, because The Lord is the same now, before and after this, God's name is I AM.

 

[dianaiad]

I have been taught that 'taking the Lord's Name in vain" is swearing by Him....and then not keeping the vow.

Not so much "Oh, my G..." but rather, " I promise in the name of G... that I will do this.." and then not doing it.

As for me, though I'll admit to using curse words, I don't use His Name as a swear word at all. I have enough trouble just dealing with daily screwups to deliberately invoke His Name falsely.

I do not believe that those who honestly believe that they are right are taking His Name in vain when they use it, even when they are dead wrong. Like all actions, motive makes the thing a sin...or not.

 

[Revoltingest]

They used to say at a local Unitarian church....
The only time Jesus Christ is mentioned is when
the janitor trips down the stairs.
(Is this whence comes his middle initial of "H"?)

 

[dybmh]

what is the possible issue with taking the Lord's name

You said "possible"... so here it goes...

The idea is that our words are powerful and have an effect on a level which is spiritual and supernatural.

For Christians and Jewish people, every word uttered using God's name can be thought of as a prayer.

So,,,, you have to be careful what you wish for.
G-d Dammot... well... if that's taken literally as a prayer and granted... I mean... you get the picture, right?

That's a **possible** issue with taking the Lord's name in vain.

 

[Fool]

You said "possible"... so here it goes...

The idea is that our words are powerful and have an effect on level which is spiritual and supernatural.

For Christians and Jewish people, every word uttered using God's name is can be thought of as a prayer.

So,,,, you have to be careful what you wish for.
G-d Dammot... well... if that's taken literally as a prayer and granted... I mean... you get the picture, right?

That's a **possible** issue with taking the Lord's name in vain.

that isn't the Lord's name. god isn't considered a name as much as it is a reference to a thing, or state of being.




here is what the NIV has to say about it. see both c and d's reference footnotes to the name.


Bible Gateway passage: Exodus 3 - New International Version


NAMES OF GOD - JewishEncyclopedia.com


the name above all names is the name of the Father, the son, and the holy spirit/ghost; which every person was to be immersed(baptized into) in, or deeply involved in.

 

[dybmh]

that isn't the Lord's name. god isn't considered a name as much as it is a reference to a thing, or state of being.




here is what the NIV has to say about it. see both c and d's reference to the name.


Bible Gateway passage: Exodus 3 - New International Version


NAMES OF GOD - JewishEncyclopedia.com


the name above all names is the name of the Father, the son, and the holy spirit/ghost; which every person was to be immersed(baptized into) in, or deeply involved in.

Right... the exclamation I used was a poor example. But I still think that what I proposed as a "**possible** issue" has merit.

 

[Fool]

Right... the exclamation I used was a poor example. But I still think that what I proposed as a "**possible** issue" has merit.

so when Jesus cursed the fig tree, you believe that was an instance of taking the Lord's name in vain?

 

[Fool]

Well, Christians name the Lord in vain all the time. When they pray, for instance.

Ciao

- viole

you know, i never thought of it like that but you're right. if they are asking for something for themselves that isn't a need, then you're right.

thanks for sharing

 

[dybmh]

so when Jesus cursed the fig tree, you believe that was an instance of taking the Lord's name in vain?

what do I believe?

that's tricky.

I don't know enough about Jesus to answer. I'm sorry.

 

[dybmh]

From a purely academic perspective, I think the rules are different for Jesus than for us.

Jesus would have much much more knowledge whether or not the curse was part of the divine plan.

If the curse is the Will of God, then it's not in vain?

 

[Fool]

what do I believe?

that's tricky.

I don't know enough about Jesus to answer. I'm sorry.

i don't identify as a fool for not. i'm referring to your, "that's tricky".

i like this medium. the questions of others have helped me to find a happier medium.


thanks for sharing

 

[dybmh]

i'm referring to your, "that's tricky".

It's true on multiple levels.

I don't know anything about Jesus, I think I've told you that before? It's something I want to learn about. One of the reasons I really like your writing and I appreciate you as a resource.

Anyways, since I don't know, it's tricky for me to answer based on what I believe.

 

[WalterTrull]

I've always thought that taking his name in vain meant claiming the power, claiming the authorship. We don't have either, of course, but claiming them can lead to all kinds of problems. Sort of like jumping out of a second story bedroom window when you're a kid thinking you can fly.

 

[ManSinha]

what is the possible issue with taking the Lord's name in vain in christianity? judaism?


is this seen as a possible issue in any of the hindu schools?


zoroastrianism? any other religion that speaks of a holy name?

Yeah but like a bunch of us were discussing in the Dharmic DIR I believe - the Lord has many many names in some of the Dharmic religions

Mine for example

Har (pronounced as her)
Waheguru (the wondrous Lord)
Sai
and of course the ubiquitous (and personal favorite) - Ram

Now which one were you talking about?

 

[Fool]

Yeah but like a bunch of us were discussing in the Dharmic DIR I believe - the Lord has many many names in some of the Dharmic religions

Mine for example

Har (pronounced as her)
Waheguru (the wondrous Lord)
Sai
and of course the ubiquitous (and personal favorite) - Ram

Now which one were you talking about?

any of them is fine but do you think its a problem when someone claims it exclusively in relationship to themselves vs another?