Evidence For The Exodus

[Audie]

What more evidence do you need?

Ron Wyatt finding gold plated chariot wheels
is conclusive.

 

[sooda]

Mana from heaven.

LOL.. The could have gathered dried dung and roasted a goat.

 

[Audie]

LOL.. The could have gathered dried dung and roasted a goat.

The whole story is supernatural, the mana part is a snap.

 

[Prometheus85]

Exodus is not a history book.
We have plenty of history books for history lessons.

What that supposed to mean. The only story of the exodus comes from the Bible, but there’s no record (outside of the Bible) of a mass exodus from Egypt.

 

[shunyadragon]

Zactly. DO NOT WORSHIP GOLD CALVES!!!

Unless they are grounded with a lightning rod.

 

[shunyadragon]

Ron Wyatt finding gold plated chariot wheels
is conclusive.

Labeled made in China.

 

[Earthling]

So?!? This extremely third hand, and yes the Jews at the time of Josephus believed that Genesis, Exodus and the rest of the Pentateuch was historical. There are no first hand references at the time Exodus that record the events, nor is there any known texts of the Pentateuch older then the Dead Sea scrolls.

These historical references are marginal, and not actually old enough to document Exodus.

Ooops . . . let me scroll up and edit the part where I said documentation . . . wait a minute! I didn't say any ****ing thing about it, did I?!?!

You might want to look up Manetho and the others. They weren't Jews in the time of Josephus.

 

[sooda]

Ooops . . . let me scroll up and edit the part where I said documentation . . . wait a minute! I didn't say any ****ing thing about it, did I?!?!

You might want to look up Manetho and the others. They weren't Jews in the time of Josephus.

Manetho was an Egyptian about 300 BC

Egyptian Account of the Leper's Exodus

Egyptian Account of the Leper's Exodus

 

[shunyadragon]

Ooops . . . let me scroll up and edit the part where I said documentation . . . wait a minute! I didn't say any ****ing thing about it, did I?!?!

You might want to look up Manetho and the others. They weren't Jews in the time of Josephus.

I know the references and others have posted putting them in context of the history of Exodus. There was in reality no relationship.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The Torah devotes more than four books to the proposition that the Israelites came to Canaan after having been subjugated in Egypt for generations, and yet there is no archaeological evidence to support that they were ever in Egypt. A prolonged Egyptian stay should have left Egyptian elements in the material culture, such as the pottery found in theearly Israelite settlements in Canaan, but there are none.

In short, the traditions of servitude in Egypt, the tales of the Israelites wandering in the desert, and the stories of the conquest of the promised land all appear to be fictitious.


Were the Jews Slaves in Egypt?

Yes, this is true. And I think more to the point is that there really is good evidence to show that the "Israelites" actually arose out of the indigenous Canaanites. They didn't "come from afar and conquer" Canaan so much as they were homies with a powerful idea that won out, for a time. More of an internecine civil war than an exodus and conquest, really.

 

[sooda]

Yes, this is true. And I think more to the point is that there really is good evidence to show that the "Israelites" actually arose out of the indigenous Canaanites.

They didn't "come from afar and conquer" Canaan so much as they were homies with a powerful idea that won out, for a time. More of an internecine civil war than an exodus and conquest, really.

Yep... that's about the size of it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The numbers, of course, do not add up, but through the account is not historical, it is based on a number of possible historical events and geography of the region.

Myths often have a seed of truth in them. That does not make the myth legitimate.

 

[shunyadragon]

Myths often have a seed of truth in them. That does not make the myth legitimate.

I did not claim it was legitimate history.

 

[sooda]

What that supposed to mean. The only story of the exodus comes from the Bible, but there’s no record (outside of the Bible) of a mass exodus from Egypt.

Exodus never happened, or it was a tiny group.

David's Jerusalem was only 10 acres and less than a thousand people.

 

[sooda]

Yep... that's about the size of it.

 

[sooda]

Ooops . . . let me scroll up and edit the part where I said documentation . . . wait a minute! I didn't say any ****ing thing about it, did I?!?!

You might want to look up Manetho and the others. They weren't Jews in the time of Josephus.

Josephus was born in 37 AD..

 

[sooda]

Yes, this is true. And I think more to the point is that there really is good evidence to show that the "Israelites" actually arose out of the indigenous Canaanites. They didn't "come from afar and conquer" Canaan so much as they were homies with a powerful idea that won out, for a time. More of an internecine civil war than an exodus and conquest, really.

 

[Kk4mds]

The teachings of Exodus do not depend on its historical accuracy. It is a story of cruel slavery, freedom, and many other things. It’s culmination is the giving is the giving of the law and the establishment of the Mosaic covenant.

There is some archeological evidence that the story I’d based on actual events, but, in that case, it is historical fiction. However, it is the teachings of HaShem that are important, not the accuracy of the chain of events.

 

[sooda]

Ooops . . . let me scroll up and edit the part where I said documentation . . . wait a minute! I didn't say any ****ing thing about it, did I?!?!

You might want to look up Manetho and the others. They weren't Jews in the time of Josephus.

Josephus wasn't born until 37 AD. What are you talking about?

 

[sooda]

The teachings of Exodus do not depend on its historical accuracy. It is a story of cruel slavery, freedom, and many other things. It’s culmination is the giving is the giving of the law and the establishment of the Mosaic covenant.

There is some archeological evidence that the story I’d based on actual events, but, in that case, it is historical fiction. However, it is the teachings of HaShem that are important, not the accuracy of the chain of events.

Its a story about redemption and crossing out of chaos (water) and out of ignorance of God. Its an epic myth.