The Lie of Evolution and the Stupidity of Those Who Believe in It

[Polymath257]

And you purportedly can track the development of humans for millions of years. Yet only within the past few years have they made such leaps into things like harnessing electricity, and medical advances. Of course, animals remain in their form (by that I mean not much progress beyond grazing on grass, roaming the woods, and so forth).

Yes. And? It took us a long time to overcome the constraints of superstition and to develop science so we could get those advances.

 

[Polymath257]

The problem with your perception of what you call a fairy tale is that the layers of creation are in harmony with "science." First the moon,the sun, the earth, the stars. Then water and soil. Then vegetation. Then animals. And then humans.

And that isn't correct. Stars existed *long* before the Earth. Water exists many places in the universe. Plants and animals developed almost simultaneously.

Your myth only is in 'harmony' with science if you cherry pick and over-interpret your myth.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your corrections are like those saying, "You're wrong."

That you are wrong is a given. That would be rather redundant. There is often an explanation given.

And I see that you still can't answer the question as to why would God lie?

 

[SkepticThinker]

So genetically have they tested the ancestry of a particular group of humans, going back to animals and then vegetation? I mean did animals pop up from vegetation?

No.

It sounds like you need to start at the beginning. Try these:
Welcome to Evolution 101!
Evolution for beginners
Evolutionary Genetics | Learn Science at Scitable

 

[Willamena]

So it's kind of up in the air as to how it all started, is that right?

Yes.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Your corrections are like those saying, "You're wrong."

I don't know about you, but if people kept telling me I was wrong about something I was asserting, I would probably look into the subject matter a little more deeply to investigate what it is that I am wrong about.
Of course, I am a person who cares about what is true and absolutely does not want to repeat false claims.

Yes, everything is perishable that is the reality.
What 'flies in the face of Scripture' is that God purposed that Earth and humans can exist and live forever.
In the 'face of reality what is flying' is that humans are bringing ruin to Earth ( physical and moral ruin).
Without divine involvement the coming ' great tribulation ' would Not be cut short.

Humans do not exist and live forever. The evidence shows that is not the case.

All you've done here is doubled down on a claim that has no basis in reality.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I don't know about you, but if people kept telling me I was wrong about something I was asserting, I would probably look into the subject matter a little more deeply to investigate what it is that I am wrong about.
Of course, I am a person who cares about what is true and absolutely does not want to repeat false claims.
Humans do not exist and live forever. The evidence shows that is not the case.
All you've done here is doubled down on a claim that has no basis in reality.

People have made wrong guesses or wrong calculations even regarding the Bible, that does Not make the Bible as wrong but just makes the guesses or calculations as wrong.
Even the Bible as evidence shows humans do not live forever.
That is because ' sin ' entered into our world.
This is ' why ' at this time we do Not live forever.
We can't resurrect oneself or another.
What we can learn from the Bible is that there is hope of a resurrection of living again on Earth.
That healthy-physical resurrection will undo all the damage ' sin ' has caused, thus in the future we can live forever.
That future starts with calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental reign over Earth.

 

[metis]

The only common sense things I see so far would be the common elements between both soil, vegetables, and animals.

That's really all, eh? Then I guess we really are different because in science we constantly deal with cause & effect relationships.

 

[SkepticThinker]

People have made wrong guesses or wrong calculations even regarding the Bible, that does Not make the Bible as wrong but just makes the guesses or calculations as wrong.
Even the Bible as evidence shows humans do not live forever.
That is because ' sin ' entered into our world.
This is ' why ' at this time we do Not live forever.
We can't resurrect oneself or another.
What we can learn from the Bible is that there is hope of a resurrection of living again on Earth.
That healthy-physical resurrection will undo all the damage ' sin ' has caused, thus in the future we can live forever.
That future starts with calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental reign over Earth.

Great story, I guess. Unfortunately, I have no reason to believe it's true.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Except they are related. Both to health and toxicity uif

Not in the sense that you are related to your siblings or how we are related to chimps and bonobos. I can assure you, you aren't related to the carbon build up found in internal combustion engines.

 

[YoursTrue]

Yes. And? It took us a long time to overcome the constraints of superstition and to develop science so we could get those advances.

AND -- what superstitions do animals have? They've been alive as species longer than humans, haven't they?

 

[YoursTrue]

Not in the sense that you are related to your siblings or how we are related to chimps and bonobos. I can assure you, you aren't related to the carbon build up found in internal combustion engines.

Naturally. I don't think soil talks by virtue of "evolution" or soul migration, or element migration. Sometimes I realize people must come to their own conclusions about this.

 

[YoursTrue]

Great story, I guess. Unfortunately, I have no reason to believe it's true.

I read the newspaper a lot. And I see people interviewed about their dead relatives, especially those who have been killed. They miss them, they are in mourning, they seek to have justice done. The rest of their lives sometimes revolves around this, including the sadness. While aware of their own impending deaths. Animals do not write memoirs, do not have trials, or investigations. They do not pay mortuaries to embalm and bury their loved ones. Animals are different than humans. They do not think the same way.

 

[YoursTrue]

That's really all, eh? Then I guess we really are different because in science we constantly deal with cause & effect relationships.

Animals do not do that.

 

[YoursTrue]

And that isn't correct. Stars existed *long* before the Earth. Water exists many places in the universe. Plants and animals developed almost simultaneously.

Your myth only is in 'harmony' with science if you cherry pick and over-interpret your myth.

I think you are looking for problems. <g> When I said "first" came planets, stars, etc., what I meant was that these things came FIRST BEFORE "life" on earth. See? Now do you understand what I meant? And to make it clearer, by "life" on earth I mean vegetation, animals, and humans. To the best of my knowledge, plants don't talk to one another. They don't have much decision-making capacity. Animals have some. Humans have more. Now you just go along and have a great day.

 

[YoursTrue]

Not in the sense that you are related to your siblings or how we are related to chimps and bonobos. I can assure you, you aren't related to the carbon build up found in internal combustion engines.

Ah, but I can assure YOU that there are common chemical elements in all those. If you're gonna look that way. And have a great day!!

 

[YoursTrue]

That you are wrong is a given. That would be rather redundant. There is often an explanation given.

And I see that you still can't answer the question as to why would God lie?

You kind of make me smile with your superciliousness. And have a nice evening.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Naturally. I don't think soil talks by virtue of "evolution" or soul migration, or element migration. Sometimes I realize people must come to their own conclusions about this.

Actually soil does "talk" in how it contains within it the pages of dead and long gone worlds. It tells us the story of what was, what things lived, of natural disasters, previous climates, when you know how to read it the soil tells us so much.

Ah, but I can assure YOU that there are common chemical elements in all those. If you're gonna look that way. And have a great day!!

Yes, but that doesn't make them related. Water is water. Beer is made with water. But they aren't the same, and other than both being liquids aren't related.

 

[YoursTrue]

I don't know about you, but if people kept telling me I was wrong about something I was asserting, I would probably look into the subject matter a little more deeply to investigate what it is that I am wrong about.
Of course, I am a person who cares about what is true and absolutely does not want to repeat false claims.

Humans do not exist and live forever. The evidence shows that is not the case.

All you've done here is doubled down on a claim that has no basis in reality.

Last I heard some humans think about and desire eternal life. This also comes in the form of cryogenics. Not that I believe in it, or think life can be resurrected by scientific means by virtue of cryogenics. But people think about that, and they also imagine other forms of extended life beyond this one. I believe in what the Bible says, not transmigration of the soul or cryogenics. Humans think about and desire these things. (Not all, for the sake of those who are picking, but many. obviously) Last I heard, or didn't hear, animals do not discuss, or write about the possibility of living forever. ONLY HUMANS DO.

 

[YoursTrue]

Actually soil does "talk" in how it contains within it the pages of dead and long gone worlds. It tells us the story of what was, what things lived, of natural disasters, previous climates, when you know how to read it the soil tells us so much.

Yes, but that doesn't make them related. Water is water. Beer is made with water. But they aren't the same, and other than both being liquids aren't related.

Yeah, it talks that way. Sometimes. Sometimes archaeologists discover things they were not aware of before. Amazing, is it not? A different form of talking.