spirit_of_dawn
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If that is how you define it then most people are spiritually dead most of the time.mentally unaware of one's mental state?
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If that is how you define it then most people are spiritually dead most of the time.mentally unaware of one's mental state?
And only really smart people can see the Emperors wonderful new clothes.
this thread is about spiritual or mental states. not demons.The golden rule is to do unto others as you would have them do to you. If you watch the news, what you often see is "others" possessed by demons. Do you see yourself as possessed by demons?
the conscious and unconscious operate the autonomic and somatic nervous system.No, i am saying i am completely aware of my mental state and have no need to hide it behind woo
No, mental the function of as persons brain, mind which operates by the action of chemicals on receptor's
... and that people could be 'spiritually dried up' like water can be dried up.If that is how you define it then most people are spiritually dead most of the time.
when a person's illusion, delusions, are disturbed they sometimes become upset.... and that people could be 'spiritually dried up' like water can be dried up.
Seems to me that is why such people are likened to 'waters' at Revelation 17:1B,15.
And at Isaiah 57:20 that the wicked are like the restless sea......
Spiritual : relating to or affecting the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things.
No mention of results,
Wind and breath are not spiritual but physical
Mental well-being can be measured as chemicals acting on the brain, chemicals are physical
Oh, and atheist : a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
No mention of spiritual there
i take it to mean that some people don't have a clue that their response isn't necessarily normal in relationship to what is going on at the moment.
its the difference between enlightened and not understanding, or ever seeing but never perceiving.
see?
this thread is about spiritual or mental states. not demons.
The dead know nothing
If a person dies, they are set free as there is no longer a person left, there is no longer a 'them' to hide behind. But they remain what they were in life; part of the bigger picture and, unfortunately, unaware of it.If a person is spiritually dead are they close minded to their own spiritual state?
If a person is spiritually dead are they close minded to their own spiritual state?
Does the term "spiritually dead" denote any real condition?If a person is spiritually dead are they close minded to their own spiritual state?
the conscious and unconscious operate the autonomic and somatic nervous system.
you have it backwards
Also,
relating to religion or religious belief.
"the tribe's spiritual leader"
synonyms: religious, sacred, divine, holy, nonsecular, church, ecclesiastical, faith-based, devotional
or, how about this:
The Supernatural and the Spiritual
bodiless, ethereal, formless, immaterial, incorporeal, insubstantial, nonmaterial,nonphysical, unbodied, unsubstantial
But there is nothing in the text of the quote or anywhere around it that would indicate you should take it any way other than literally.
Possession by a demon spirit puts the possessed in an unstable mental state. A good example would be the Liberal media and politicians. Obama would be a prime example of the how a unclean spirit leads a leader (Revelation 16:13-16). While the beast, and the false prophet of Revelation 16:13 are dead, their demon spirits live on, and are actively at work.
Revelation 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits that looked like frogs coming out of the mouths of the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet. 14These are demonic spirits that perform signs and go out to all the kings of the earth, to assemble them for battle on the great day of God, the Almighty.…
And once again you throw in your ubiquitous staw man.
The conscious and unconscious work in the same way, physical processes driven by chemicals and neurones
mentally close minded and having exacting and rigid absolutes. the only Absolute is that there is no absolutes in knowledge.Does the term "spiritually dead" denote any real condition?
If so, what test will tell you whether any individual is "spiritually dead"?
actually you started the strawman argument about "your" mind and chemicals in post
The Dead Know Nothing.
consciousness has been proven to exist without locality. its called the spooky action at a distance.
maybe that old quote speaks more of awareness.....generallyIf a person is spiritually dead are they close minded to their own spiritual state?
consciousness, mind itself, is a physical phenomena. in ancient times it was known by the nomenclature spirit.We are not discussing consciousness, which is not completely understood, so i would be grateful if you can provide citation for your claim consciousness exists without locality.
Spooky action at a distance has nothing to do with god magic but Einstein's misunderstanding of quantum physics. If you dont know what you are talking about i suggest you dont embarrass yourself
We were discussing the conscious and unconscious operation of the brain. But it seems you are floundering there and want to introduce quantum physics.