Someday we will succeed in reporting the UN to an International Court, for plotting against Europe, for projecting a destabilization of our societies through a disguised ethnic replacement.
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UN's Global Compact for Migration Expands on Hate Speech to Criminalise Criticism of Migration
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Matthew, dear...it doesn't even fit in Europe let alone Italy
I have shifted nothing and responded in kind to your post n which you stated
" I feel it's not so big a factor"
I can assure you it is big to the victims of continuous bombing.
The Syrian conflict and its impact on migration
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The mindset of xenophobia, racism, hate.
RED= countries who won't sign the Global Compact
ORANGE= undecided countries
ORANGE= undecided countries
Notanumber
A Free Man
@Estro Felino
I haven’t much hope that the PM of the UK will turn our country red because she does what the EU wants her to do.
I have signed the petition and I would send a letter to my MP if I thought it would make a difference.
You must be proud of your politicians.
I haven’t much hope that the PM of the UK will turn our country red because she does what the EU wants her to do.
I have signed the petition and I would send a letter to my MP if I thought it would make a difference.
You must be proud of your politicians.
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Let's hope for the best
btw that map shows a deep, oblique fissure between two Europes: one is still nationalist, the other is victim of the ruinous Politically Correct
Being against mass migration is none of those things. In fact, in my case, it's the opposite of all of those things.
Ahh Ahh wonderful but i was not commenting on mass migration but on NAN asking what is wrong with being white... To which i replied "Nothing wrong with being white the problem is mindset, not colour."
You picked that up and tried to make an argument out of it. Not my problem but yours.
Maybe, maybe not. You definitely made a racist association, by associating some negative mindsets with a "white mindset".
I made a racist association with mindset, yes it happens, get used to it. And no maybe about it.
If you want to wear the mantle of racist, of course that's your choice.
ditto
Whatever makes you happy
@ChristineM - In the interest of good faith, I'll try again. Many posts ago you said the following (which a added numbers to):
1 - While I would agree that this is "the way things are heading", we have to fight this, correct? If your stance is that an Orwellian future is inevitable, we can probably stop the discussion on that point. Is that your stance?
2 - The math no longer works. The populations have grown too large for this to be a sustainable option. What we have to do is things like:
- reversing desertification
- educating women in the 3rd world and providing them with birth control options
- providing infrastructure aid - in place
- providing education in sustainable farming practices
Oligarchs are by nature (and for reasons I cannot fathom), very shortsighted. All of the initiatives I listed above require long term thinking, and they run counter to the Oligarchs' short term goals. So the Oligarchs will fight these initiatives. For the sake of discussion, I'm going to lump multi-national corporations into the same category as Oligarchs, and call them all Oligarchs. A key reason that people want to leave the 3rd world is that the Oligarchs' rule over the 3rd world is far greater than their rule over the 1st world. This leads us to your point #3:
3 - First off, I agree that violent, so-called "western interventions" (the bombings you refer to), are one factor driving mass migration. But millions and millions of people want to migrate and are not getting bombed. In fact most of the people who want to migrate are not getting bombed. So we have to account for those people, correct. The other - more important factors - are things like infertile land, lack of infrastructure, medicine, education, security from local thugs, and so on. Suspending for a moment the reasons why these problems exist, our policy cannot be to simply abandon these lands. The planet isn't big enough, and these troubled areas are huge. We have to fix these areas.
Now, back to who caused these problems. I infer from your subsequent posts that you'd like to say something like "white men created these problems", and somehow besmirch western society as well. Is that largely correct? If not, please tell me who and what you think are to blame.
Here's what I think. I don't think "white people are inherently bad". I think all races are - for all intents and purposes - the same. I think that secularism, democracy, and some sort of economic free market are the best ideas people have cooked up, if the goal is overall well being.
What's happened in the last 40 years or so is that "the west" has allowed Oligarchs slowly take over. Remember that Oligarchy is in direct opposition to democracy. It's not westerners who benefit from the military-industial complex, it's the Oligarchs - as Bob Dylan put it, the "masters of war". It's not westerners who want to sell genetically modified and patented seeds into impoverished areas - thereby gaining total control over local farmers, it's the Oligarchs. The Oligarchs consistently plunder natural resources at the expense of local populations. This is not because of western secularism. It's not because of democracy. It's not because of a "white mindset". It's because we've let the barbarians (Oligarchs), past the city gates.
I would also say that a large percentage of migrants in the world are Muslim, and Islam advocates for theocracy. Theocracy is a horrible idea on it's own, and it's even worse in a world ruled by Oligarchs, because theocracies are far easier to manipulate than democracies.
1 - While I would agree that this is "the way things are heading", we have to fight this, correct? If your stance is that an Orwellian future is inevitable, we can probably stop the discussion on that point. Is that your stance?
2 - The math no longer works. The populations have grown too large for this to be a sustainable option. What we have to do is things like:
- reversing desertification
- educating women in the 3rd world and providing them with birth control options
- providing infrastructure aid - in place
- providing education in sustainable farming practices
Oligarchs are by nature (and for reasons I cannot fathom), very shortsighted. All of the initiatives I listed above require long term thinking, and they run counter to the Oligarchs' short term goals. So the Oligarchs will fight these initiatives. For the sake of discussion, I'm going to lump multi-national corporations into the same category as Oligarchs, and call them all Oligarchs. A key reason that people want to leave the 3rd world is that the Oligarchs' rule over the 3rd world is far greater than their rule over the 1st world. This leads us to your point #3:
3 - First off, I agree that violent, so-called "western interventions" (the bombings you refer to), are one factor driving mass migration. But millions and millions of people want to migrate and are not getting bombed. In fact most of the people who want to migrate are not getting bombed. So we have to account for those people, correct. The other - more important factors - are things like infertile land, lack of infrastructure, medicine, education, security from local thugs, and so on. Suspending for a moment the reasons why these problems exist, our policy cannot be to simply abandon these lands. The planet isn't big enough, and these troubled areas are huge. We have to fix these areas.
Now, back to who caused these problems. I infer from your subsequent posts that you'd like to say something like "white men created these problems", and somehow besmirch western society as well. Is that largely correct? If not, please tell me who and what you think are to blame.
Here's what I think. I don't think "white people are inherently bad". I think all races are - for all intents and purposes - the same. I think that secularism, democracy, and some sort of economic free market are the best ideas people have cooked up, if the goal is overall well being.
What's happened in the last 40 years or so is that "the west" has allowed Oligarchs slowly take over. Remember that Oligarchy is in direct opposition to democracy. It's not westerners who benefit from the military-industial complex, it's the Oligarchs - as Bob Dylan put it, the "masters of war". It's not westerners who want to sell genetically modified and patented seeds into impoverished areas - thereby gaining total control over local farmers, it's the Oligarchs. The Oligarchs consistently plunder natural resources at the expense of local populations. This is not because of western secularism. It's not because of democracy. It's not because of a "white mindset". It's because we've let the barbarians (Oligarchs), past the city gates.
I would also say that a large percentage of migrants in the world are Muslim, and Islam advocates for theocracy. Theocracy is a horrible idea on it's own, and it's even worse in a world ruled by Oligarchs, because theocracies are far easier to manipulate than democracies.
Too big, im dyslexic so didnt bother after 1 and a bit of 2
1. Right wing politics ensures oligarchy has a strong foot hold. I did not vote right but the majority did. While this (these) democratic governmentgs) hold power there is nothing i can do about it because I am not in the habit of bumping of those i dont like.
2. What maths, i look at it this way, we are all African and have migrated across the world. Populations have always been in flux. The only reason i see for objecting to the natural state is the (fairly) modern longing for nationalism
Europe is already FILLED with Europeans...as you can see...
especially in the most productive areas...Northern Italy, Rhine, Paris, Benelux and England
WE CANNOT BE INVADED
My goal is to maximize the well being of conscious creatures. I believe that in 2018, mass migration will do the opposite. This is not a longing for nationalism.
Europe is already FILLED with Europeans...as you can see...
especially in the most productive areas...Northern Italy, Rhine, Paris, Benelux and England
WE CANNOT BE INVADED
Interesting how you are all european now