American Christian missionary killed by tribespeople

[ecco]

We don’t know they are not doing internal harm to minority opinions if we don’t study them properly, too little is known about them.

May god have mercy on your soul.

 

[Dave Watchman]

If I burst into your house shouting satanas te diligit, would it have any meaning to you? Would you feel saved?

He didn't burst into anyone's house.

He just paddled his kayak to the beach.

In 2006 there were two fisherman who fell asleep in their boat while the anchor slipped overnight. When their boat accidentally drifted to that same beach they woke up as they were being macheted to death.

Those fishermen weren't bursting into anyone's hut either.

Yeah, that failed prophecy has been bandied around for about 2000 years. You believers are still waiting (and praying). We atheists are still waiting (and smiling).

Are you worried about it?

Did i hit a nerve?

I'm not wishing or praying for it, "woe to those who long for the Day of the Lord".

But if it is starting to begin now and we are within the prophetic time period for it to occur, "Blessed and holy is he who waiteth for and reaches the 1335th day.

Let my reasonableness be known to ALL men,
For the Lord is at hand.

Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Jumi]

They don't have machetes on that island. The fishermen who got drunk and shipwrecked on the island died from arrows according to other sources.

 

[Dave Watchman]

They don't have machetes on that island. The fishermen who got drunk and shipwrecked on the island died from arrows according to other sources.

You would think a few machetes would have washed up on the shore over the past 30,000 years.

Maybe there were some in the packages dropped by the Indian Government after the 2004 Tsunami.

"And he’d have certainly heard of the two Indian fishermen macheted to death in 2006 after their boat accidentally drifted onto the white sandy beach while they were drunk on palm oil brew.

World's last Stone Age tribe: What life is REALLY like on the island cut off from everyone for 30,000 years where locals repel all visitors with poison arrows - and killed a young missionary
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Maybe they were still too drunk and hung over that they didn't know what hit them.

Still, what a way to wake up.

"I'm AWAKE.

"WHAT THE...

"I'm DEAD...

"Now I'm at the end of the world at the Great White Throne Judgement Day..

"WOW.

That's a busy few seconds of confusion.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What part of "Dislodge the cross from your *** and think rationally." did you not understand?

Yup. He is not innocent in his death. What he did was both extremely dangerous and illegal. It cost him his life. He is no martyr, only a dead fool who'd still be alive had he not done something so incredibly stupid.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Has anybody tried dropping medical supplies, food, and pictorial Bibles from airplanes/drones to these uncivilized savages. ....

Yes. It was met with flying arrows. And they can't be too uncivilized or savage, because they are a very ancient tribe surviving still without having been assimilated into contemporary society. They are very unwilling to allow outsiders, and because they pose such an insignificant threat it's best that everyone take heed of the warnings and law and leave them alone. They don't want us, and we aren't welcome. Why should it bother us and give reason for us to think less of them?

 

[Cooky]

Yes. It was met with flying arrows. And they can't be too uncivilized or savage, because they are a very ancient tribe surviving still without having been assimilated into contemporary society. They are very unwilling to allow outsiders, and because they pose such an insignificant threat it's best that everyone take heed of the warnings and law and leave them alone. They don't want us, and we aren't welcome. Why should it bother us and give reason for us to think less of them?

There are things we need to learn about them. For instance, their inbreeding (there are only 50 to 150 of them) for tens of thousands of years seems contrary to science. When some were abducted from the island years ago, they died almost immediately upon the trip to Europe... As if they required something special that they couldn't receive off the island.

...These people need to be studied via satellite. And watched... Like the Truman show, starring Jim Carrey.

Also, they possess strange habits such as communal beach orgies according to sources.

 

[Cooky]

Also, some sources say they cannot create fire, yet other sources say they are cannibals -which seems extremely disgusting when you put the two together.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

For instance, their inbreeding (there are only 50 to 150 of them)

Those numbers would be sufficient enough to not have to interbreed. But after 30,000 years, they might be genetically homogeneous enough that interbreeding may not be much of an issue for them.

When some were abducted from the island years ago, they died almost immediately upon the trip to Europe... As if they required something special that they couldn't receive off the island.

It was probably disease (it has killed many natives from all over who went to Europe) that killed them and not the lack of something from their island.

...These people need to be studied via satellite. And watched... Like the Truman show, starring Jim Carrey.

That's a horribly inadequate way to study them. For one, you can't ask them about anything they are doing, can't ask about their language, and will have no idea what that ritual is or its purpose.

Also, they possess strange habits such as communal beach orgies according to sources.

And we don't have strange habits? We take the remains of the ancient dead and power our motors with them AND eat them, wiping with toilet paper is considered gross and unclean by some, and our model of family has a noticeable lack of family.
And what's so strange about a communal orgy? Lots of cultures do not have the sexual hangups that Western culture has long held. To many cultures, such hangups are downright bizarre.

Also, some sources say they cannot create fire, yet other sources say they are cannibals -which seems extremely disgusting when you put the two together.

We're disgusting to many because we eat pigs and cows and cook our vegetables. Whether done out of respect or disrespect, cannibalism isn't too unusual for us, and indeed of all the humans in history those who did practice cannibalism would find they are comfortably not alone.

 

[Cooky]

But just imagine what cannibalism looks like in the absence of fire.

...If morality truly is subjective, then the moral habits of these people could surely be something from our wildest imaginations.

 

[Jose Fly]

So basically the missionary said "You people need to get to know Jesus" and the tribal folks said "So do you".

 

[Dave Watchman]

There are things we need to learn about them. For instance, their inbreeding (there are only 50 to 150 of them) for tens of thousands of years seems contrary to science. When some were abducted from the island years ago, they died almost immediately upon the trip to Europe... As if they required something special that they couldn't receive off the island.

...These people need to be studied via satellite. And watched... Like the Truman show, starring Jim Carrey.

Also, they possess strange habits such as communal beach orgies according to sources.

I agree with you, they need to be studied from a distance.

The more that i have read of them, the more i do NOT admire their ways. Centuries of inbreeding may have had a negative effect on the intellectual capacity of their minds.

One of the stories where their women may have diffused a massacre during a previous visitation is an example that comes to mind. One of the women grabbed a warrior, and then the other women all did the same thing until the whole group of them sat down and began having sex on the beach.

After reading all that i can find on these people, i had enough. I don't want to know their ways. I'm a Calvinist, so i don't want to save them. If any are savable, none of them will slip through the Lord's righteous right hand. I wouldn't have gone there like John Chau did. But at least he delivered a water proof Bible to them.

And now the Gospel has reached the ends of the Earth.

All further studies of these people should be done with unmanned drones.

"And you will be my witnesses, telling people about me everywhere--in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, and to the ends of the earth." - Acts 1:8​

The disciples continue their witnessing through their written word which can be found in the water proof Bibles of today.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But just imagine what cannibalism looks like in the absence of fire.

No different than any other meat without fire.

...If morality truly is subjective, then the moral habits of these people could surely be something from our wildest imaginations.

That does tend to be were morality has traditionally come from. People announcing they are speaking of morality of the behalf of god is a prime example of this. For-profit prisons and destroying forests for a profit are also pretty wild ideas. Circumcision, long days at work, the hustle and bustle, Western and American cultures are so bizarre and wild that I actually agree with Osama Bin Laden on some of the points he made criticizing us - you just won't see me flying airplanes into a building to kill myself, another facet of the "wild imagination" when religion runs morality.

 

[danieldemol]

Whatta bunch of religious BS. The fishermen have been warned by the Indian Government. The fishermen who helped the missionary have been arrested.

How about just leaving these people alone. They don't need a dose of Christian fundiism and they don't need a bunch of Bahai fundiism.

Actually I never mentioned religion and am not a fundamentalist

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But at least he delivered a water proof Bible to them.

A Bible that was pierced by an arrow. A Bible they can't read. Even if it wasn't discarded, to them the English it contains would be no different than what Mandarin Chinese looks to me.

All further studies of these people should be done with unmanned drones.

How do you propose to actually use drones to study a group of people? Even in a friendly tribe that will not work. It's even more impossible when the locals are shooting arrows at the drone (and their is precedence to assume that is exactly what they would do to a drone).

 

[Jumi]

There are things we need to learn about them. For instance, their inbreeding (there are only 50 to 150 of them) for tens of thousands of years seems contrary to science.

Contrary to science, how?

When some were abducted from the island years ago, they died almost immediately upon the trip to Europe... As if they required something special that they couldn't receive off the island.

That's normal and the reason you don't contact uncontacted tribes, because you kill them with your diseases. You know the Euros who went to America killed much of the population there because they had diseases the natives didn't have resistance to. Same deal on this island. The missionary might end up killing the whole island if he's "lucky" and his corpse ends up spreading some disease there.

 

[Jumi]

After reading all that i can find on these people, i had enough. I don't want to know their ways. I'm a Calvinist, so i don't want to save them. If any are savable, none of them will slip through the Lord's righteous right hand. I wouldn't have gone there like John Chau did. But at least he delivered a water proof Bible to them.

Yep. Anyone with a decent moral compass wouldn't go, and spread diseases to them that would kill them while risking life to get to them. They can't read and speak a language no one else knows, so the Bible won't end up being read.

 

[Dave Watchman]

A Bible that was pierced by an arrow. A Bible they can't read. Even if it wasn't discarded, to them the English it contains would be no different than what Mandarin Chinese looks to me.

They've had 30,000 years to review the materials washed up on their shores. Up until 1996 there were regular gift dropping missions to them. They might even know more than we are giving them credit for.

John Chau wrote describing a man wearing a white crown possibly made of flowers taking a “leadership stance” by standing atop the tallest coral rock on the beach.

The man yelled, and John responded, singing some worship songs and yelling back something in Xhosa, a language he apparently knew a few words of from when he coached soccer in South Africa a few years ago.

“They would often fall silent after this,” he wrote. Other efforts to communicate with tribe members ended with their bursting out in laughter.
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The people on that island, like the Jews in the first century, did not recognize the time of their visitation. But it was a technical success, the Word was delivered to them. And the messenger paid a high price for it's delivery.

I find that this comes at an uncanny time. My interest in the story is not casual. It's just another one of too many coincidences. I wonder now if the Lord did not raise these Sentinelese up as vessels to be a fulfillment of scripture in these last days.

I know there are other isolated tribes in south America, but not like these guys. The south American ones are still on the same land mass. These Sentinelese are notoriously remote. The MOST remote.

"And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness to all nations; and then shall the end come. - Matthew 24:14

"And you will be my witnesses, telling people about me everywhere--in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, and to the ends of the earth." - Acts 1:8​

How do you propose to actually use drones to study a group of people? Even in a friendly tribe that will not work. It's even more impossible when the locals are shooting arrows at the drone (and their is precedence to assume that is exactly what they would do to a drone).

Elementary my dear Watson. A good quality WiFi drone with altitude hold would send back excellent quality video to it's controller which would be resting in a comfortable boat which would be SECURELY anchored a safe distance off the shore. Yes we would lose some of the equipment in the beginning, but after X amount of days the natives would become bored with them. They would then resume their hunting and gathering and beach sex operations, They would become accustomed to the drones which could then be flown lower and lower to record their language. We would also be in the position to market world quality images of these rare peoples. Think Time Magazine and CNN. $$$

This would be a great job for me if i could get the government funding.

But right now i think the Lord is at hand,
So let my reasonableness be known to all men.

Peaceful rest of the Sabbath.

 

[ecco]

He didn't burst into anyone's house.
He just paddled his kayak to the beach.

You missed the point of the question...

If I burst into your house shouting Satanas te diligit, would it have any meaning to you? Would you feel saved?

The point being, speaking in a language you don't even understand.


RE: End of Times...

I'm not wishing or praying for it, "woe to those who long for the Day of the Lord".
Are you worried about it?

Did i hit a nerve?

Shakin' in ma boots. Kin hardly sleep at night.

Naa.

What does bother me is that people like you don't care about long term problems like AGW because you keep believing - any day now - any day now.

But if it is starting to begin now and we are within the prophetic time period for it to occur, "Blessed and holy is he who waiteth for and reaches the 1335th day.

Let my reasonableness be known to ALL men,
For the Lord is at hand.

Peaceful Sabbath.

- any day now - any day now. You can deny it but you really do want to be around to see the fulfillment of your silly fantasy.

 

[ecco]

The more that i have read of them,

Where have you read of them? The Daily Mail? Landon Caeli's comments? Please do tell of your research.