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The process by which some documents were accorded sacred status and collected to form the Bible must be reviewed with other ancient documents now competing for that sacred status.
Do you agree or disagree? And why?
The process by which some documents were accorded sacred status and collected to form the Bible must be reviewed with other ancient documents now competing for that sacred status.
Do you agree or disagree? And why?
"Eye witnesses are completely untrustworthy irrelevant and not to be listened to, i am an eye witness trust me"I think before a document reaches that sacred status, 2 things need to be determined.
is it written by an eyewitness or have an eyewitness approval?
2, is the teaching sound?
I think you need to make your post clearer. I think you are saying non cannon texts are competing with cannon texts for viability in the frameowork that the christian cannon texts were cannonized.The process by which some documents were accorded sacred status and collected to form the Bible must be reviewed with other ancient documents now competing for that sacred status.
Do you agree or disagree? And why?
What makes a document sacred anyways?The process by which some documents were accorded sacred status and collected to form the Bible must be reviewed with other ancient documents now competing for that sacred status.
Do you agree or disagree? And why?
"Eye witnesses are completely untrustworthy irrelevant and not to be listened to, i am an eye witness trust me"
Well thomas totally blows up your eyewitness theory, hypothesis, speculation, belief!!!! That actually is an ancient greek statement written right into the new testament curiously!. Its specifically called the liers paradox.
I actually have a degree in this stuff and trust me when i say professors read right over that without realizing how that passage and why that passage is written. The writers are ohhhh so voodoo deep its stunning. Its not written by BELIEVERS!!
Never trust anyone over thirty, trust me i am over 30.
oh and you understand them? Hahahhahabababa. Based in what precisely based on a tiny region of your brain generating "i believe" xyz nonsense? Sorry the text was written by adults go figure
Hidegard debingen actually blasts that in about 1250 Ad. "we cannot live in an interpreted world for an interpreted world is not home." belief is atheism dressed in religious drag is all. Who cares?
I know its nearly impossible for you to understand but the entirety of humanity is not made up only of believers, non believers and agnostics. You three are the vast majority that is not reality.
I am not. You made the statement they are believers. i said no they are not believers. You then were confused by that.I dont understand what your trying to tell me.
You totally lost me. Your talking over my head.
Break down for me what your saying.
What eyewitnesses?These eye witnesses wer persecuted for there claims, that makes them trustworthy, doesnt it?
What does "sound" mean, in this context?2, is the teaching sound?
Don't know why it should be an issue. The book is. You want a different book, make up a criteria, choose some writings, put 'em together, call it bibleII, done.The issue is how did the books now in the bible get chosen? Who chose and what was the criteria used? – and is that decision long ago still valid
I am not. You made the statement they are believers. i said no they are not believers. You then were confused by that.
It says so directly in the text by paul(s) himself. This is not written by believers its written for believers. But over time belief became the norm arriving at the nonsense "we believe", cut and paste verses which is today what is called the nicene creed.
The nonsese is not in the verses its in the "we believe". Not everyone is that, nor are they atheist nor are the agnostic about it at all.
What eyewitnesses?
I hear a lot about these claims of eyewitnesses and persecution. But I never hear any reason to believe any of them.
It's always some modern person who claims it, without backing up their story with anything more concrete than delusions of grandeur.
Tom
What does "sound" mean, in this context?
Agrees with what you already believe to be true?
Tom