A Simple Start

[paarsurrey]

Might in what, exactly? An adult gorilla is far stronger than any human could ever hope to be in the muscular department. Dolphins can out-swim us any day of the week... oh, and so can sharks, and catfish, and minnows, etc. The jaw strength of a crocodile is something no human could ever hope to possess. Are these creatures gods, in your estimation? You want to talk staying power? Look at trees. Some outlive humans by years numbering in the hundreds. And I'd like to see a human hold their place on the Earth in the middle of a hurricane as well as many trees can. Can plants be gods in your opinion?

The truthful G-d is the Mightiest in absolute form or mighty to infinity, beyond human imagination.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Disagree about the superhuman definition.. A god determines fate. In the western traditions going all the way back to pre-ptolemaic religion this makes gods moral judges.

Yes, one of His attributes among many is Qadeer*- one who determines the fate of everything.

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*Quran
[25:3]
He to Whom belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth. And He has taken unto Himself no son, and has no partner in the kingdom, and has created everything, and has ordained for it its proper measure.
The Holy Quran - Chapter: 25: Al-Furqan

 

[paarsurrey]

Sorry, no.

The Rock is not my God, for instance.

In practice (in reality) a god is anything or anyone that someone takes a fancy for calling a god.

Sorry, I disagree.
G-d is not creation of anybody's fanciful mind or conjecture.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Define worship.

Worship is to inculcate attributes of G-d in one's self.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Yes, any of those things can be and probably are gods. The attribution is what you seem to be overlooking. There are no rules regarding what can or can't be a god. It's, as they say, in the eye of the beholder.

Sorry, I disagree with one here.
G-d existed even if the eye to behold Him was in the making or was not yet evolved.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

I mean all gods are immortal and that is why they are greater than us.

Not all gods are immortal .Krishna and Jesus are considered as gods erroneously while they both died. Right, please?

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[paarsurrey]

Then Putin isn't your god. But he could be. Your problem is that you are restricting the definition of the word god. Putin isn't Jehovah, or Shiva, or any other god. But he could be a god in the same manner, i.e., the common definition of the word God.

Jehovah is a God. God isn't a name, it's a title. Putin doesn't have to be Jehovah to be a God. He doesn't have to be supernatural, etc.

"God isn't a name, it's a title". Unquote

Yes, God is a title. Jehovah and Allah are His names in different languages.

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

syo said: ↑
I mean all gods are immortal and that is why they are greater than us.

That's a false statement.

It is correct.
Regards

 

[LuisDantas]

Sorry, I disagree.
G-d is not creation of anybody's fanciful mind or conjecture.
Regards

I do not doubt your sincerity, but neither can I find a reason nor the means to agree.

 

[syo]

Not all gods are immortal .Krishna and Jesus are considered as gods erroneously while they both died. Right, please?

Regards

the human form of Jesus died, not the god-side.

 

[BilliardsBall]

I suppose it comes down to semantics, and your
overall conception of the universe, and your
place in it.

As in, to you, the most fundamental, the central
fact of all reality is the existence of "god", is it
not so?

So all of human nature and behaviour would have
to be seen in relation to that. Again, is this not so?

To me-
The words "god", "worship", "idol" to me, are all in
the same realm as words specific to other things
of interest to some, and not to me. "Srimmage",
"buttonhook", "lateral". (I had to look those up
coz "scrimmage" is the only one I'd heard)

A footballist might say "EVERYone has a Line
of Scrimmage!" "Nobody is without the faith
of buttonhook!"

"But when they do it about anything but FOOTBALL
as the correct object of srimmage, they will
never be drop kicked thro' the goalposts of life!"

Your frame of reference, is, well, your frame of reference.

To present it as true, factual and all, is getting into
facts not in evidence. I notice you phrase it as
"I would say....". Good!
And I would not say it, for the reasons above.

you forgot to address this q-

So, again, do you wish to make your faith in spouse, or worship
of god equivalent to the passion of a degenerate?

By degenerate, if you mean, "addicted", no. Everything in life should have balance.

 

[BilliardsBall]

Why would I check myself for answers? It's not like humans are gods.

I'm fine with your beliefs being yours. It doesn't however matter to me if you say you're 100% certain of something where you can't show proof to me. I think you were being purposely rude when you called my views "blind belief".

Don't mistake being truthful and honest for rude. Would it help if I said, "As a friend, in love, trusting to spiritual experience is blind, trusting the Bible's teachings is wise, guided, godly"?

 

[Audie]

By degenerate, if you mean, "addicted", no. Everything in life should have balance.

Uh, no. I generally say what I mean.*

Try again.
So, again, do you wish to make your faith in spouse, or worship of god equivalent to the passion of a degenerate?

So, do you? Nothing more pure about your worship than
the passion of someone who, ah, is say, a coprophiliac?


*
having lost the physical, mental, or moral qualities considered normal and desirable; showing evidence of decline.

 

[Audie]

Don't mistake being truthful and honest for rude. Would it help if I said, "As a friend, in love, trusting to spiritual experience is blind, trusting the Bible's teachings is wise, guided, godly"?

Maybe if you did not mistake your false and insulting
beliefs for honesty?

 

[Jumi]

Don't mistake being truthful and honest for rude. Would it help if I said, "As a friend, in love, trusting to spiritual experience is blind, trusting the Bible's teachings is wise, guided, godly"?

Well I'll be honest with you too. You were pointlessly rude no matter what you say after the fact. Also, you are the one holding blind beliefs. I think you should really evaluate them.

 

[Audie]

Well I'll be honest with you too. You were pointlessly rude no matter what you say after the fact. Also, you are the one holding blind beliefs. I think you should really evaluate them.

A word to the wise, and all!

If enough people make the same observations about
something, it is a sign that one should see if maybe
they are on to something.

It is not just one person thinking that BB is rude,
insulting, and makes things up.

 

[BilliardsBall]

Uh, no. I generally say what I mean.*

Try again.
So, again, do you wish to make your faith in spouse, or worship of god equivalent to the passion of a degenerate?

So, do you? Nothing more pure about your worship than
the passion of someone who, ah, is say, a coprophiliac?


*
having lost the physical, mental, or moral qualities considered normal and desirable; showing evidence of decline.

Again, it seems that skeptics want to be careful not to overly honor or venerate anyone or anything, good or bad, that isn't themselves. You are making my point for me.

 

[BilliardsBall]

Well I'll be honest with you too. You were pointlessly rude no matter what you say after the fact. Also, you are the one holding blind beliefs. I think you should really evaluate them.

Is it "rude" to slap the hand of an addict holding a syringe filled with heroin?

I know God personally and advise my "spiritual" friends against self-deception where I can. If you do know God as you claim, the whole world will know you know Him by your love for Christian believers. Start showing me some. I first explained that it's the opposite of rude to tell you the truth, then I justified what I meant and clarified, and instead of accepting my words or apologizing you called me rude again.

Show you know God by your love for God's people.

Show you know God by acknowledging I know the Christ and adhere to His Word, the Bible, the sum of all godly truth and the words of Jesus Christ, rather than "you are holding blind beliefs".

The closer you are to God, the more love you have for other people, especially God-followers. I love you, and I'm showing you love, respect and truth. Respect yourself enough to read and love the Bible, IMHO.

The closer you are to God, the more persecution you will receive for your beliefs, if you know God, and have spoken with Him, you wouldn't trifle when I say, "check yourself".

 

[Audie]

Again, it seems that skeptics want to be careful not to overly honor or venerate anyone or anything, good or bad, that isn't themselves. You are making my point for me.

I dunno man, seems everything that others say just goes
into your converter, round and round a time or two.
and comes out as something completely different,
tailored to suit your needs of the moment.

 

[Jumi]

Is it "rude" to slap the hand of an addict holding a syringe filled with heroin?

I have done that you. Now why aren't you obedient and thankful for me showing you what to do?