@kjw47
If there were no trinity (bible: relationship betwen father/son/holy spirit), then these wont make sense.
Should You Believe in the Trinity? (JW)
Try to understand the trinity according to scripture
You need to see the context of the word and the relationship to how christians (real ones not just JW) use it.
The idea is: jesus is not the father but his status makes him special (your words: perfect). As a result, he is aligned with god. (No one is perfect but god) If not, jesus would need a savior too.
God did not make the first humans perfect or they would have not sinned. Perfect people do not sin.
Many Christian denominations teach that God is a Trinity. However, note what the
Encyclopedia Britannica states: “Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries any through many controversies.”
Is the Trinity Doctrine in the Bible? | Bible Questions (JW.org)
The word trinity is not in the bible
The concept is.
You are debating man's
use of the word;
not the definition of the word itself. You keep debating over man's stuff, you won't concentrate on what scripture says instead
"Christendom's unchristian doctrine of a Trinity of "God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Ghost" will be rejected by all enlightened mankind as being a blasphemous pagan lie." Paradise restored to Mankind - By Theocracy p.388 (JW)
That's why you have to go off the biblical definition of the trinity.
I am not a trinitian because
I disagree with how christians USE the word not the scriptural content and context of the word itself.
Translations wouldnt define gods relationship with jesus if the concept of the trinity wasnt biblical.
According to the bible, I agree that the trinity is there.
According to The Church they believe the same but their
Expression is different.
When you go to Catholic Mass their emphasis is on jesus and gods blessing to jesus not himself.
Before The Watch Tower of June 1882 stated: “At this time, therefore, the doctrine of three Gods was invented …”” Proclaimers p.125, people were killed for worshiping statues and doing anything pagan.
You are probably attacking modern views
Not one before Constantine and definitely not scriptural.
The Watch Tower of June 1882 stated: “At this time, therefore, the doctrine of three Gods was invented …”” Proclaimers p.125
This is not the trinity. There are no three gods in the trinity. There is only one: the father
You got to read scripture and understand The Church internally to understand it. Books and history are just that. People were killed for believing anything pagan before and after Constantine.
That is why you are wrong. You are following the wrong interpretation of Catholism (The people of The Church/apostles) based on how you define its history. Also, Roman Catholicism doesnt speak for all catholics.
You
must to reply to my post
with scripture and commentary or you debating against the wind.
Waste of time when you dont post scripture and support of your positions relationship with my posts.
Conversing doesn't mean repeating your objection without addressing my posts with comments and scripture.
Without scripture and commentary, this debate is void.