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What Would Be Your Appeal on Judgement Day?

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Jesus: "Hello Yahweh sir, See these nails in my hands?" [ shows them to Yahweh and audience] "Well THIS MAN is responsible, AND I HAVE THE VIDEO EVIDENCE TO PROVE IT!"
Man on trial: "That's not me!!!"
Jesus: "It is if I say it is"
Man on trial: "That's not fair. You're supposed to be defending me???"
Jesus: "Psyche!"
Yahweh: "Will the witness please come to the stand"
Satan: "Yes father, I am ready" [evil laugh]
Man on trial: "What, Jesus payed you off?????"
That was funny! :)

But I still like my version better:

COURT IS IN SESSION, JEHOVAH PRESIDING! "says the Angel Gabriel.

Attorneys are present... the proseuctor Satan and the defense Jesus!

Satan brings the charges with videos once and again. The evidence... irrefutable.

Jesus answers each time after each witness "No questions". The defendent is nervous.

When the prosecutor rested his case, Jesus began his defense.

"Hello, Dad, whats-up!", was his opening sentence. First witness... the Holy Spirit. "Do you witness that the defendent is a child of God"? "YUP!" and names the date and time of the defendents conversion. No cross examination.

"Hey Dad", you know, he really is guilty but I just want to show you my scars. The Holy Spirit bore witness he gave his life to me and we are like... blood brothers. I really think there isn't a case here to prosecute!"

Dad THUNDERS, "CASE DISMISSED FOR LACK OF EVIDENCE OF GUILT".

Defendent leaves relieved.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The accuracy of the Bible has been proven over an over and over. When they said that Pilot in the bible as governor Judea did not exist.
This is what happened!!

UNTIL 1961, there was no concrete archaeological evidence that Pontius Pilate, the fifth governor of Judaea, ever existed. There were accounts of him, of course, not least the accounts in the Gospels. But the records of his administration had disappeared completely: no papyri, no rolls, no tablets, no (authentic) letters to Rome. The Roman ruins that remained in Israel seemed to have nothing to do with him. Even his aqueduct - a project that got him into plenty of trouble at the time - appeared to have crumbled away.

In the summer of 1961, however, Italian archaeologists found a piece of limestone, 82cm wide by 68cm high, in the ruins of a sports stadium in Caesarea, beside the sea. The stadium had not been there in Pilate's time; he had yelled at his gladiators in another place. But the stone bore his name, and much else besides.

Th accuracy of the bible verified.

When The Bible foretold an event yet to happen about the city of Tyre in Lebanon. EZ 26:4 Date of prophecy 590–570 B.C : I will also scrape her dust from her, and make her like the top of a rock. ... scrape you like a rock/Link Prophecy against Tyre
The date of the prophecy was 240 years before it happened.

Archaeology Info:
Is Bible Prophecy Specific and Accurate? Look at the Ancient City of Tyre! ‹ The Bible Can Be Proven

I think we can see that these are very clear predictions. Nothing vague about them. And we can also see these predictions are plainly contained in the verses of Ezekiel quoted above, and we determined these were written anywhere from 590–570 B.C. So all that remains is to compare them with actual historical data.



The siege of Nebuchadnezzar: Nebuchadnezzar indeed laid siege to Tyre from 585–573 B.C., a thirteen-year siege in all. Tyre was situated so there was a mainland city on the coast and an island part of the city. When Nebuchadnezzar entered and destroyed the mainland city he found that most of the people had moved to the island part of the city. Nebuchadnezzar stopped there and did not go on to conquer the island.



Tyre’s stones and rubble cast into the sea: Two hundred forty years later Alexander the Great attacked the now heavily walled island city of Tyre. He encountered a well-fortified city indeed, and it was hard to get near it without being hit by weapons and objects thrown from behind its walls. So Alexander the Great devised a strategy to build a causeway from the mainland to the island. He did this by casting the debris and stones of the ruins of the mainland city into the water. So just as predicted many nations came against Tyre, and the city ruins were literally thrown into the water. As he progressed by using the stones and debris as a causeway he encountered deeper water and more resistance closer to the island.



Many nations come against Tyre: Alexander needed a larger navy to conquer the city, and so he organized and used the navies of six or seven countries he had already conquered, to bring them against Tyre and blockade the city. He finally built up the causeway enough to use battering rams and other weapons to break down the city walls. Alexander conquered Tyre three years later. Notice how the verse in Ezekiel 26:12 reads: “They. . .shall lay thy stones and thy timber and thy dust in the midst of the water.” This was after Nebuchadnezzar, when Alexander and many other nations were attacking; therefore the term “they” was used



These are just a couple among many such bible events verified over and over by archaeology.

So do your research before you claim folk stories, legends or mythology

The Bible is accurate and true. Thats why I use it to support my claims
Seriously?
You find references to historical people and events in ancient writings to be something remarkable? Why? They are common; expected, and don't lend any particular weight to a work's religious, cosmological or moral content.

Google "Bible Errors," "Biblical contradictions" or something and you'll find hundreds listed. There are glaring historical errors, like the flood or Augustus' world census, and scientific absurdities.

Your post #33 wasn't about historical events, though. It was unsupportable religious mythology.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
So lets say we've already failed, and along comes Judgement day on earth, where after there will be eternal life in paradise on the new earth; everyone else is to be chucked into the incinerator...

What would you plead to show that there has been a mistake in why you should be worth keeping? o_O


In my opinion. :innocent:

As in the old saying, when trying to excuse a noise or smell not wanted (especially in a space-suit) - Pardon me for being so rude, twas not me, twas ma food.

I would argue - Pardon me for being obnoxious, twas not me, and I can't find anything to rhyme with this! :D

I think I can deal with any punishment - I 've had enough on this Earth. :rolleyes:

Unless there is any conversion treatment involved, of course. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Judgement Day is like being offered a million dollars and refusing it then struggling with poverty the rest of your life.

You don’t get chucked in a fire. You just deprive yourself of beautiful, priceless spiritual gifts which would make your life full of joy and happiness.

God doesn’t punish you at all. He offers you gifts and you refuse them and therefore deprive yourselves of them.

So Judgement Day is the Day you either accept many wonderful spiritual gifts or deprive yourself of them by saying no.

You therefore are your own judge on Judgement Day by your own decisions. No fire, no hell or brimstone. You just miss out on some very beautiful things. I chose to accept them so my life is full of happiness.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
So lets say we've already failed, and along comes Judgement day on earth, where after there will be eternal life in paradise on the new earth; everyone else is to be chucked into the incinerator...

What would you plead to show that there has been a mistake in why you should be worth keeping? o_O

In my opinion. :innocent:

The Bab has given us some thoughts on this matter; The Bab was the Gate to the 'Day of God', to our Judgement Day no less;

"..How numerous the verses which have been revealed concerning the grievous tests ye shall experience on the Day of Judgement, yet it appeareth that ye have never perused them; and how vast the number of revealed traditions regarding the trials which will overtake you on the Day of Our Return, and yet ye seem never to have set your eyes upon them.
Ye spend all your days contriving forms and rules for the principles of your Faith, while that which profiteth you in all this is to comprehend the good-pleasure of your Lord and unitedly to become well-acquainted with His supreme Purpose.
God hath made His Own Self known unto you, but ye have failed to recognize Him; and the thing which will, on the Day of Judgement, turn you aside from God is the specious character of your deeds. Throughout your lives ye follow your religion in order to attract the good-pleasure of God, yet on the Last Day ye shut yourselves out from God and turn away from Him Who is your Promised One." XVII, 2.The Bab : Selections from the Writings of the Bab

"...ALL men have proceeded from God and unto Him shall all return. All shall appear before Him for judgement. He is the Lord of the Day of Resurrection, of Regeneration and of Reckoning, and His revealed Word is the Balance. True death is realized when a person dieth to himself at the time of His Revelation in such wise that he seeketh naught except Him.True resurrection from the sepulchres means to be quickened in conformity with His Will, through the power of His utterance. Paradise is attainment of His good-pleasure and everlasting hell-fire His judgement through justice. The Day He revealeth Himself is Resurrection Day which shall last as long as He ordaineth. Everything belongeth unto Him and is fashioned by Him. All besides Him are His creatures. In the Name of God, the Most Exalted, the Most High. VERILY I am God, no God is there but Me, and aught except Me is but My creation. Say, worship Me then, O ye, My creatures." The Bab : Selections from the Writings of the Bab

Regards Tony
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
I maintain this opinion is without foundation.

Can you support it?
Considering it is a theoretical question; what ever i make up is the premise that exists...

On the idea of proving that this legitimately exists in much of global eschatology; people don't pay attention enough to question the whole contexts.
I would explain that I spent years debating with theists of all stripes, and pleaded for solid evidence of a god's existence.
Lol, seriously the reality is mathematically equatable to ten thousand of a decimal point, and then you're asking stupid religious people who have no clue what is going on; how can you expect that to be a suitable answer to the most advanced being in reality? :confused:
Failed, how? Without knowing the criteria I wouldn't bother pleading. After all, anyone throwing a whole species in an incinerator is clearly a despot.
We don't know why we have failed; yet clearly some have made it through...

So clearly your assumption that the being is a despot, for doing something that might be essential for everyone's survival, says more about the possible reasons that you're to be removed.
I'd bring in my attorney... Jesus
Yeshua wouldn't represent Christians, as they're diametrically opposed to his teachings.
There will be no such day. Period.
Considering you can do complex mathematics, the amount of times you surprise me at your lack of discernment is shocking...

The question starts this is theoretical ('So lets say..'); therefore dismissing the idea, is not a suitable answer to the question. :rolleyes:
There will be no appeals allowed
Who made you judge and jury?

The question did not say this is based on Biblical prophecy, and therefore it hasn't got any sway in changing the question.

Job 5:8 "But if I were you, I would appeal to God; I would lay my cause before him.
shouldn't you establish their accuracy first?
People are gullible; they want a get out clause, and don't read the small print... The Bible proves its accuracy by Christianity being prophesied as the deception.

In my opinion.
:innocent:
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Judgement Day as I understand it is when a new Prophet appears in the world bringing new laws, teachings and guidance to help us advance our civilisation.

It’s called Judgement Day because it is the Day we judge ourselves. Justice is what a judge administers and justice is comprised of two elements reward and punishment or deprivation.

At the time of the appearance of a new Prophet, during our lifetime we sit in judgement of ourselves whether we will embrace His teachings or deprive ourselves of them.

So the Prophet teaches peace but we choose war. Who suffers? We do. Our judgement not to accept the Prophets guidance ends up inflicting suffering upon ourselves.

So the Day of Judgement is the Day we either reward or punish ourselves.

Baha’u’llah has appeared and is calling humankind to amity, concord, unity and reconciliation so that all men and women can live in peace and prosperity and comfort by regarding each other as equals no matter religion or no religion or nationality or race.

He said:

The utterance of God is a lamp, whose light is these words: Ye are the fruits of one tree, and the leaves of one branch. Deal ye one with another with the utmost love and harmony, with friendliness and fellowship. He Who is the Day Star of Truth beareth Me witness! So powerful is the light of unity that it can illuminate the whole earth. The one true God, He Who knoweth all things, Himself testifieth to the truth of these words.

If we choose the opposite we then turn to war and bloodshed and disunity and thereby pronounce suffering upon ourselves by our own choices.

This is my understanding of the Day of Judgement. You are the judge and jury of which direction or path you want to walk and you then must face the consequences good or bad of that choice.

Judge aright!
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Considering it is a theoretical question; what ever i make up is the premise that exists...

On the idea of proving that this legitimately exists in much of global eschatology; people don't pay attention enough to question the whole contexts.

Lol, seriously the reality is mathematically equatable to ten thousand of a decimal point, and then you're asking stupid religious people who have no clue what is going on; how can you expect that to be a suitable answer to the most advanced being in reality? :confused:

We don't know why we have failed; yet clearly some have made it through...

So clearly your assumption that the being is a despot, for doing something that might be essential for everyone's survival, says more about the possible reasons that you're to be removed.

Yeshua wouldn't represent Christians, as they're diametrically opposed to his teachings.

Considering you can do complex mathematics, the amount of times you surprise me at your lack of discernment is shocking...

The question starts this is theoretical ('So lets say..'); therefore dismissing the idea, is not a suitable answer to the question. :rolleyes:

Who made you judge and jury?

The question did not say this is based on Biblical prophecy, and therefore it hasn't got any sway in changing the question.

Job 5:8 "But if I were you, I would appeal to God; I would lay my cause before him.

People are gullible; they want a get out clause, and don't read the small print... The Bible proves its accuracy by Christianity being prophesied as the deception.

In my opinion.
:innocent:
I refuse to waste my time on useless speculation.
You know the Hindu position well enough. Universal liberation where all beings merge with Brahman. So why go about pandering to false theological beliefs about end times?
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
God I tried. I did the best I could with the resources and information to hand. I'm sorry for when I failed. I only hope that on balance the world was better for having had me in it.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I refuse to waste my time on useless speculation.
You know the Hindu position well enough. Universal liberation where all beings merge with Brahman. So why go about pandering to false theological beliefs about end times?

This is that day.

We are called to be One with God as a unified Humanity.

This is that day to which we will be judged on our efforts to merge, to be even as one Soul.

"...Wherefore must the friends of God, with utter sanctity, with one accord, rise up in the spirit, in unity with one another, to such a degree that they will become even as one being and one soul. On such a plane as this, physical bodies play no part, rather doth the spirit take over and rule; and when its power encompasseth all then is spiritual union achieved. Strive ye by day and night to cultivate your unity to the fullest degree. Let your thoughts dwell on your own spiritual development, and close your eyes to the deficiencies of other souls. Act ye in such wise, showing forth pure and goodly deeds, and modesty and humility, that ye will cause others to be awakened...." Abdul'baha

Regards Tony
 

TransmutingSoul

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Premium Member
God I tried. I did the best I could with the resources and information to hand. I'm sorry for when I failed. I only hope that on balance the world was better for having had me in it.

It is your lucky day. I can inform you, that you will face judgement against your response to the Message of Baha'u'llah.

It is a very special day we live in.

Regards Tony
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
The OP is self-contradictory.

There is no sense whatsoever in expecting us to feel guilty for the afterlife's inherent insanity and/or unfairness.
 

Pudding

Well-Known Member
So lets say we've already failed, and along comes Judgement day on earth, where after there will be eternal life in paradise on the new earth; everyone else is to be chucked into the incinerator...

What would you plead to show that there has been a mistake in why you should be worth keeping?
Failed at what? Failed to believe in the existence of a specific interpretation of god from a specific religion or religion sect? Which specific interpretation of god from which specific religion or religion sect is it? Or is it a non-religion, personal, non-personal, monotheist or non-monotheist god? Failed at follow the laws and morals settings by one of those god? What is those laws and morals? What is the precise requirements to enter paradise and incinerator?

Answers to the op's question may have big difference depends on the details given to the above questions.
 
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Seriously?
You find references to historical people and events in ancient writings to be something remarkable? Why? They are common; expected, and don't lend any particular weight to a work's religious, cosmological or moral content.

Google "Bible Errors," "Biblical contradictions" or something and you'll find hundreds listed. There are glaring historical errors, like the flood or Augustus' world census, and scientific absurdities.

Your post #33 wasn't about historical events, though. It was unsupportable religious mythology.


I based my description of judgment day upon the only reliable ,accurate source the words of Jesus the bible. I gave you information validating its accuracy.Who rose from the dead and proved that he was who he said he was.

If you want to call that mythology thats your choice. Choices have consequences. Thats what the purpose of life is all about. You get to make that final decision as to believe or not believe in Jesus the Son of God who came to deliver you from eternal death.

The life jacket has been thrown in the water to safe you from drowning.

Its up to you to swim to it and put it on and be delivered.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
So lets say we've already failed, and along comes Judgement day on earth, where after there will be eternal life in paradise on the new earth; everyone else is to be chucked into the incinerator...

What would you plead to show that there has been a mistake in why you should be worth keeping? o_O


In my opinion. :innocent:

I'm not worth much, but Jesus Christ died and rose for me. I trusted Him for eternal life.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
So lets say we've already failed, and along comes Judgement day on earth, where after there will be eternal life in paradise on the new earth; everyone else is to be chucked into the incinerator...

What would you plead to show that there has been a mistake in why you should be worth keeping? o_O
I would hope that I'd have enough character and self-respect not to kowtow to a mass murderer who's engaging in some sort of fiery genocide.

Edit: and even if I wanted to, I wouldn't know where to begin trying to demonstrate my "worth" to someone who obviously places no value on even human life.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
We don't know why we have failed; yet clearly some have made it through...

So clearly your assumption that the being is a despot, for doing something that might be essential for everyone's survival, says more about the possible reasons that you're to be removed.

So wait...you're arguing that the ends justifies the means?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
I refuse to waste my time on useless speculation.
It isn't speculation; it is a theoretical question, and you're already wasting time by replying.
You know the Hindu position well enough. Universal liberation where all beings merge with Brahman. So why go about pandering to false theological beliefs about end times?
I'm aware what Hindu's believe, when compared to their texts; just the same as every other religious tradition in this current world that go contrary.

Kalki Purana 1:3 May the Supreme Personality of Godhead, having assumed the form of Kalki, who is the Supersoul of all living entities, establish the eternal principles of religion Having appeared in a family of brdhmanas, He will annihilate the sinful kings of Kali-yuga by the fire of the poison emanating from His ferocious serpent-like hands while riding on the back of an excellent horse of the Sindh province. In this way, He will protect the pious and re-establish Satya-yuga

Kalki Purana 2:28 The four exalted brahmanas offered their obeisances unto Lord Visnu, who had assumed the form of a human being. They very well understood that Lord Kalki had appeared to rid the earth of all those who had become degraded to the level of sinful demons.

As stating previously on here, that most Hindu's do not accept we're the demons according to chapter 16 of the Bhaghavad Gita, and we're not Brahman unless we're a saint already.
There is no sense whatsoever in expecting us to feel guilty for the afterlife's inherent insanity and/or unfairness.
Repeatedly your lack of taking on board what is being stated properly is shocking, for someone who seems so smart...

The OP doesn't say anything about the afterlife; Judgement day according to most religious texts happens here, where this realm is cleansed by fire, and after those who are Godly live in this realm, the rest are removed.

Yet the OP is theoretical as well, to make us ponder what sort of response we would give in said situation.
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Failed at what? Failed to believe in the existence of a specific interpretation of god from a specific religion or religion sect? Which specific interpretation of god from which specific religion or religion sect is it? Or is it a non-religion, personal, non-personal, monotheist or non-monotheist god? Failed at follow the laws and morals settings by one of those god? What is those laws and morals? What is the precise requirements to enter paradise and incinerator?
Not filling in any of those questions, it could be any religious requirements, some have made it, we haven't...

Thus the question was left open to see if people ponder how they would appeal, and how many argue against the concept.
I would hope that I'd have enough character and self-respect not to kowtow to a mass murderer who's engaging in some sort of fiery genocide.
Tho the start of your answer would make a good appeal; the end isn't rational based on the idea presented, it is happening, we don't have a choice if it happens, we're either removed from reality or come up with some way to appeal.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 
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