Origin of life, Adam and the Dinosaurs

[CogentPhilosopher]

You are dense. Adam died within the 1,000 year "day" timeframe.

Keep up the personal attacks and I will report you.

Did the verse say timeframe?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Could Adam have been alive with the dinosaurs according to scripture. Yes, absolutely.

Anything's possible when you're talking about mythology and folk stories. It's kind of the nature of fictional story-telling.

 

[Kemosloby]

Anything's possible when you're talking about mythology and folk stories. It's kind of the nature of fictional story-telling.

No, actually, any slight change in the scriptures could make it impossible, or at least not evident. Such as the sentence "In the day that you eat of it you shall surely die" , which explains how Adam could be 900 years old but still have lived for thousands, even millions, of years. Facinating stuff. I'm glad we had this discussion.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

No, actually, any slight change in the scriptures could make it impossible, or at least not evident. Such as the sentence "In the day that you eat of it you shall surely die" , which explains how Adam could be 900 years old but still have lived for thousands, even millions, of years. Facinating stuff. I'm glad we had this discussion.

Yes, fascinating, and fun, fictional tales. I used to read comic books a lot when I was kid. I grew out of it, but still tend to read a lot of science fiction. I guess we all get our fantasy kick in different ways.

 

[arthra]

Could Adam have been alive with the dinosaurs according to scripture. Yes, absolutely. No fossils of humans are found with the dinosaurs because humans, Adam and Eve were immortal, they did not die like the animals.
In 7 days God created the Heaven and the Earth. With God a day is 1,000 years, a day is also a day our time. It is ambiguouos whether creation was 7 days our time or 7,000 years. But Man was created immortal, his days were not numbered. There is an indefinite time period between creation and the fall of man, which could have been millions of years. When Adam ate the fruit he became mortal, his days were numbered and time began. God said "In the day they ate of it they would surely die" A day with God is 1,000 years, so they would die within 1,000 years, which accounts for Adam's age of a few hundred years old, from the time of the fall of man until his death.

I'd also suggest that the "days" in question can be viewed as vast periods of time "Yowm"....

The story of Adam and Eve is in my view symbolic of the relationship between God and man at the beginning of a cycle. In the first chapters of Genesis there are three questions asked:

In Genesis 3:9 God called to the man "Where are you?" not because He doesn't know where he is but because it's an existential spiritual question.. Where are you?

The second question found in Genesis 3:13 is "What have you done?" Again not that He doesn't know but asking us to review what we've done in this life...

A third question is found in Genesis 4:9 "Where is your brother?" Not that God doesn't know and needs to ask but the question is also existential where is your brother? and with that the implied who is your brother? as well.

So there are many levels of meaning I would suggest in scriptures.

 

[Barry Irwin]

Could Adam have been alive with the dinosaurs according to scripture. Yes, absolutely. No fossils of humans are found with the dinosaurs because humans, Adam and Eve were immortal, they did not die like the animals.


In 7 days God created the Heaven and the Earth. With God a day is 1,000 years, a day is also a day our time. It is ambiguouos whether creation was 7 days our time or 7,000 years. But Man was created immortal, his days were not numbered. There is an indefinite time period between creation and the fall of man, which could have been millions of years. When Adam ate the fruit he became mortal, his days were numbered and time began. God said "In the day they ate of it they would surely die" A day with God is 1,000 years, so they would die within 1,000 years, which accounts for Adam's age of a few hundred years old, from the time of the fall of man until his death.

Try Biologos.org for

Could Adam have been alive with the dinosaurs according to scripture. Yes, absolutely. No fossils of humans are found with the dinosaurs because humans, Adam and Eve were immortal, they did not die like the animals.


In 7 days God created the Heaven and the Earth. With God a day is 1,000 years, a day is also a day our time. It is ambiguouos whether creation was 7 days our time or 7,000 years. But Man was created immortal, his days were not numbered. There is an indefinite time period between creation and the fall of man, which could have been millions of years. When Adam ate the fruit he became mortal, his days were numbered and time began. God said "In the day they ate of it they would surely die" A day with God is 1,000 years, so they would die within 1,000 years, which accounts for Adam's age of a few hundred years old, from the time of the fall of man until his death.

 

[Barry Irwin]

Could Adam have been alive with the dinosaurs according to scripture. Yes, absolutely. No fossils of humans are found with the dinosaurs because humans, Adam and Eve were immortal, they did not die like the animals.


In 7 days God created the Heaven and the Earth. With God a day is 1,000 years, a day is also a day our time. It is ambiguouos whether creation was 7 days our time or 7,000 years. But Man was created immortal, his days were not numbered. There is an indefinite time period between creation and the fall of man, which could have been millions of years. When Adam ate the fruit he became mortal, his days were numbered and time began. God said "In the day they ate of it they would surely die" A day with God is 1,000 years, so they would die within 1,000 years, which accounts for Adam's age of a few hundred years old, from the time of the fall of man until his death.

Try Biologos.org for a very good view of Theistic Evolution and the existence of Adam (humanity) and Eve (life).

 

[Kemosloby]

Try Biologos.org for a very good view of Theistic Evolution and the existence of Adam (humanity) and Eve (life).

Nah, save the Kabbalism for the other people.

 

[Polymath257]

Asking if it was possible for Adam to have lived with dinosaurs is like asking if Sherlock Holmes could have lived with Julius Caesar.

 

[Kemosloby]

Asking if it was possible for Adam to have lived with dinosaurs is like asking if Sherlock Holmes could have lived with Julius Caesar.

Julius Caesar was not immortal, hence "et tu Brutus"...

 

[Polymath257]

Julius Caesar was not immortal, hence "et tu Brutus"...

And Sherlock Holmes was fictional, just like Adam.

 

[Kemosloby]

And Sherlock Holmes was fictional, just like Adam.

Oh yeah, I guess you got me there, Sherlock Holmes was fictional.

 

[David T]

Ok

Could Adam have been alive with the dinosaurs according to scripture. Yes, absolutely. No fossils of humans are found with the dinosaurs because humans, Adam and Eve were immortal, they did not die like the animals.


In 7 days God created the Heaven and the Earth. With God a day is 1,000 years, a day is also a day our time. It is ambiguouos whether creation was 7 days our time or 7,000 years. But Man was created immortal, his days were not numbered. There is an indefinite time period between creation and the fall of man, which could have been millions of years. When Adam ate the fruit he became mortal, his days were numbered and time began. God said "In the day they ate of it they would surely die" A day with God is 1,000 years, so they would die within 1,000 years, which accounts for Adam's age of a few hundred years old, from the time of the fall of man until his death.

so in the absence of reality this makes total sense!! Then again I would also say string theory is emperical fact based on this absense of relaity or we live in a virtual reality like a video game, based on this frame work.

 

[sayak83]

I'd also suggest that the "days" in question can be viewed as vast periods of time "Yowm"....

The story of Adam and Eve is in my view symbolic of the relationship between God and man at the beginning of a cycle. In the first chapters of Genesis there are three questions asked:

In Genesis 3:9 God called to the man "Where are you?" not because He doesn't know where he is but because it's an existential spiritual question.. Where are you?

The second question found in Genesis 3:13 is "What have you done?" Again not that He doesn't know but asking us to review what we've done in this life...

A third question is found in Genesis 4:9 "Where is your brother?" Not that God doesn't know and needs to ask but the question is also existential where is your brother? and with that the implied who is your brother? as well.

So there are many levels of meaning I would suggest in scriptures.

I suggest it means precisely what it says. It's a story about a limited God made by an ancient people with limited imagination. The idea of omni God does not belong in the early myths of the Bible.

 

[Tumah]

Could Adam have been alive with the dinosaurs according to scripture. Yes, absolutely. No fossils of humans are found with the dinosaurs because humans, Adam and Eve were immortal, they did not die like the animals.

Just wait until you get to chapter 5!

 

[Kemosloby]

Ok
so in the absence of reality this makes total sense!! Then again I would also say string theory is emperical fact based on this absense of relaity or we live in a virtual reality like a video game, based on this frame work.

Don't you feel your spirit pulling you back to the origins of Adam. To the simplicity of walking the Earth naked, leaving nothing behind but your footprints, in a world where good grammer does not matter?

 

[David T]

Don't you feel your spirit pulling you back to the origins of Adam. To the simplicity of walking the Earth naked, leaving nothing behind but your footprints, in a world where good grammer does not matter?

I live on the oregon coast and am a traveler where there are no words, so not really is my answer. I know this is difficult for you but nature is a lot bigger than the bible or you. But since you have shrunk nature to your cranium size that's really difficult to understand that's normal. It also makes it impossible to understand the bible and so we then create fantasies layered on top of the text and that becomes the text. It also renders the text incoherent, your post is incoherent fantasy like a comic con extended universe theory of the nature of of the sithes and where they started and why etc. Its wierd but hell that's normal you are normal.

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[Kemosloby]

I live on the oregon coast and am a traveler where there are no words, so not really is my answer. I know this is difficult for you but nature is a lot bigger than the bible or you. But since you have shrunk nature to your cranium size that's really difficult to understand that's normal. It also makes it impossible to understand the bible and so we then create fantasies layered on top of the text and that becomes the text. It also renders the text incoherent, your post is incoherent fantasy like a comic con extended universe theory of the nature of of the sithes and where they started and why etc. Its wierd but hell that's normal you are normal.

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Ah, well Im glad you put that in a nutshell for me.

 

[viole]

Could Adam have been alive with the dinosaurs according to scripture. Yes, absolutely. No fossils of humans are found with the dinosaurs because humans, Adam and Eve were immortal, they did not die like the animals.


In 7 days God created the Heaven and the Earth. With God a day is 1,000 years, a day is also a day our time. It is ambiguouos whether creation was 7 days our time or 7,000 years. But Man was created immortal, his days were not numbered. There is an indefinite time period between creation and the fall of man, which could have been millions of years. When Adam ate the fruit he became mortal, his days were numbered and time began. God said "In the day they ate of it they would surely die" A day with God is 1,000 years, so they would die within 1,000 years, which accounts for Adam's age of a few hundred years old, from the time of the fall of man until his death.

Where cows immortal, too? I ask because we never observed fossils of cows with dinosaurs, either.

Ciao

- viole

 

[David T]

Ah, well Im glad you put that in a nutshell for me.

An ivory one as a tower self levitating at that!!! Eddy Vedder covers this in hard sun.