psychoslice
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Now your being silly.Yes..and do a little business on the side or get some good horse racing tips
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Now your being silly.Yes..and do a little business on the side or get some good horse racing tips
Of course, who would ever think of such things....Now your being silly.
You of course lol.Of course, who would ever think of such things....
Tithing means nothing, its just another way of taking from the people who fall for these lies of hungry so called priest.
I don't care about your tithing, do what you need to do, but don't tell people that they should tithe, in this day and age its bloody hard for people to give ten percent of their wages, and they shouldn't be pressured into such stupid things.
Tithing is a donation and charity. I can tithe my clothing to the homeless shelter near me. No different tha a religious community. Charity has NO reservations. I shouldn matter who, what, why, or how. The fact that you are Giving is in and of itself a tithe.
I dont agree with being "required" to tithe as in Nichiren Buddhism but I wasnt required in Catholicism. They wanted me to give in charity. We gave by visiting others, supporting them, tithing our clothes, and time.
Tithing isnt bad. What Im off about it money. Doesnt matter if it goes to my uncle phil or mother joe ann, to a mosque, temple, or church. I just feel money shouldnt be part of a religion necessity to Worship.
Religion (how you define it) has nothing to do with it
Tithing is just a way of making people feel guilty if they don't pay, a church should just be a simple meeting place and that's it.
I was not aware that I was telling anybody that they should do anything, psychoslice. I was explaining why *I* tithe, why others might tithe, and what it's used for, as a general rule, and why the whole concept of donating money to one's belief system isn't a Bad Thing.
No I didn't say it was bad, I said it should not be required to please god, it should be a personal choice.Tithing is a donation and charity. I can tithe my clothing to the homeless shelter near me. No different tha a religious community. Charity has NO reservations. I shouldn matter who, what, why, or how. The fact that you are Giving is in and of itself a tithe.
I dont agree with being "required" to tithe as in Nichiren Buddhism but I wasnt required in Catholicism. They wanted me to give in charity. We gave by visiting others, supporting them, tithing our clothes, and time.
Tithing isnt bad. What Im off about it money. Doesnt matter if it goes to my uncle phil or mother joe ann, to a mosque, temple, or church. I just feel money shouldnt be part of a religion necessity to Worship.
Religion (how you define it) has nothing to do with it
No I didn't say it was bad, I said it should not be required to please god, it should be a personal choice.
I am simply saying that you don't have to tithe to please god, of course you can tithe if you feel you must, but it wont make any difference between you and God, got it ?.I was not aware that I was telling anybody that they should do anything, psychoslice. I was explaining why *I* tithe, why others might tithe, and what it's used for, as a general rule, and why the whole concept of donating money to one's belief system isn't a Bad Thing.
If that is pressuring people into doing a 'stupid thing,' then isn't your opinion of the whole idea, and characterization of it AS a 'stupid thing' pressuring people into NOT tithing? What's the difference?
I have found (mostly as a mother who has raised five teenagers) that such explanations are not considered 'pressure,' usually, unless one has an internal niggle that agrees with the explainer. This leads to feelings of guilt, which lead to feelings of resentment; how DARE you explain that doing something I don't want to do is a Good Thing, when I don't WANT to do it?
psychoslice, any internal conflict you might be experiencing about this is not my fault. Really.
If you don't want to tithe, and you honestly don't feel that it's a good thing for you to tithe, then.....don't tithe. No pressure here. You didn't promise to do so (I don't think you did, anyway) and your honest beliefs about the human condition don't require any such thing. So....why does any hint that tithing (or contributing to one's church/belief system) feel like 'pressure' to you?
That's it, tithing has nothing to do with your walk with God, give when you feel its right to give.All the religions I know of say it's not a requirement. When they say that, it means that tithing goes towards material things. Puja, Mass, Gongyo, etc participation that's free. What I don't like is the coercion and peer pressure to tithe. Has nothing to do with the religion. Just, well, some of the people......
I've voluntarily taken a tithing (time and money) tithe as well. For the life of me, I cannot understand how simply sharing one's beliefs and practices in a discussion should be considered as pressuring some other person. (In a different belief system no less) I'm having a cup of coffee as I write this. Does that mean I'm trying to convince everyone else to have a cup too? Hardly.
Great example, Vinayaka....since drinking coffee is actually 'against my religion."
I am simply saying that you don't have to tithe to please god, of course you can tithe if you feel you must, but it wont make any difference between you and God, got it ?.
Yeah, I knew that, and that's why it was the simple example used. But you could always go out for 'coffee' when it means the break associated with coffee, but not necessarily having coffee. Lots of people take coffee breaks without having coffee.
If I had more money, I'd be giving more money. In retirement (I'm retired) the time tithe is crazy easy.
Yes you can make a personal covenant, but we do live in a real world, and many times things happen in our life that makes it hard to continuing paying something like a tithe, and therefore you would have to break that covenant. I am sure if there is a god he would understand like any of us would. Yes tithing again is a personal thing, its no one else's business, you give what you can afford, that is if you want to give, tithing your self is more important than mere money, some people help others in such things as soup kitchens, that is their tithe, anyway its again personal, do what you need to do.Well, I'm not all that certain of that one. Depends on circumstances, I suppose.
For instance, if you made a personal covenant with God to tithe....and broke your half of that covenant by refusing to do so, then it probably makes a pretty big difference.
As well, if the only charity you 'do' involves tithing, and you don't tithe or contribute in any other way to helping others, it might make a difference because, er, you aren't helping anybody.
Tithing, as I have mentioned before, isn't about the money. God certainly doesn't need the profit...but those He has asked us to help and comfort DO need it. The trick is to find out who, among all the myriad begging recipients, will do the most good with your contributions.
Tithing (and every other contribution to religion, whether it is time, goods or money) is about fellowship and helping other humans, NOT about pleasing God...except inasmuch as you think He has asked us to help each other.
got it?
Yes you can make a personal covenant, but we do live in a real world, and many times things happen in our life that makes it hard to continuing paying something like a tithe, and therefore you would have to break that covenant. I am sure if there is a god he would understand like any of us would. Yes tithing again is a personal thing, its no one else's business, you give what you can afford, that is if you want to give, tithing your self is more important than mere money, some people help others in such things as soup kitchens, that is their tithe, anyway its again personal, do what you need to do.
That's it, tithing has nothing to do with your walk with God, give when you feel its right to give.