An execution of wounded by Israeli soldier !

[Poisonshady313]

So adding more stupidity as you did, then did they find the bomb?

I'd like to point out that I haven't insulted anybody in this thread, and I've been insulted twice. Once by you, and once by Godobeyer.

Both of you owe me an apology.


Did they find the bomb? I don't know. It doesn't actually matter. In fact, it doesn't actually matter if there actually was a bomb at all. What matters is the soldier reasonably believed that a Palestinian knife attacker wearing a heavy coat might have been wearing a bomb.

If history were filled with far fewer Palestinian suicide bombers, that wounded Palestinian might still be a live today. Maybe. In an alternate history, the shot that wounded him might have killed him instead, so you'd still have a dead Palestinian, and you'd still call the person who shot him a murderer, even though that guy would have been fully justified because he was attacked with a knife.

 

[Aquitaine]

No I did not have problem to condemning them . I had a problem of unjustice treatement between criminals of Arabs and Jews , so Israeli soldiers don't hestitate to shoot the Arabs and but if about a Jew stabbing/attacking Arabs , the Israeli soldier don't shoot him , no contrary they protect him !!!


Do you think that your stand in this case is not bias to Israeli ?

I think you are bias in favour of Israeli.

I'm pretty sure you did have trouble condemning them: you were claiming that the videos and reports were manipulated by Jews, if I remember correctly. I believe you also posted a video of the aftermath of the attack, where one of the boys was lying on the floor waiting for an (Israeli) ambulance whilst an Israeli civilian was yelling insults at him, you seemed more offended by the verbal insults than the knife chasing attacks.

To answer your question, my opinion on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict varies depending on what happens: when the IDF shell a UNHRW Hospital and drop massive bombs in populated areas I condemn them, when Palestinians launch rockets at Israeli civilians or attack people with knives I condemn them.

You raise an interesting point regarding the difference in treatment of a Jew knife attacker and a Muslim one: I recall recently an Orthodox Jew stabbed a bunch of people at a Gay Pride parade, and was arrested rather than shot. Having said that though, how many Jews are blowing themselves up in Israel?

 

[Flankerl]

You raise an interesting point regarding the difference in treatment of a Jew knife attacker and a Muslim one: I recall recently an Orthodox Jew stabbed a bunch of people at a Gay Pride parade, and was arrested rather than shot.

He was in the middle of a crowd.

I say that to you and not those other two as they won't and can't understand the importance of that fact. To them its all the same.

This thread about criminal soldier ,anyone can creat about crime of Palestinians

Implying we are still that stupid.

 

[Godobeyer]

I'm pretty sure you did have trouble condemning them: you were claiming that the videos and reports were manipulated by Jews, if I remember correctly. I believe you also posted a video of the aftermath of the attack, where one of the boys was lying on the floor waiting for an (Israeli) ambulance whilst an Israeli civilian was yelling insults at him, you seemed more offended by the verbal insults than the knife chasing attacks.

In this OP , I guess you take the way of criminal soldier .

To answer your question, my opinion on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict varies depending on what happens: when the IDF shell a UNHRW Hospital and drop massive bombs in populated areas I condemn them, when Palestinians launch rockets at Israeli civilians or attack people with knives I condemn them.

Israel claims that they launch rockets from UNHRW to avoid the condemnation of world.

You raise an interesting point regarding the difference in treatment of a Jew knife attacker and a Muslim one: I recall recently an Orthodox Jew stabbed a bunch of people at a Gay Pride parade, and was arrested rather than shot. Having said that though, how many Jews are blowing themselves up in Israel?

There are cases when Jews attacked Arabs by knifes or by guns, on contrary Israel soldiers protect them while they shooting civilians Arabs !!!

 

[Godobeyer]

I'd like to point out that I haven't insulted anybody in this thread, and I've been insulted twice. Once by you, and once by Godobeyer.


Both of you owe me an apology.

You need to be apology for us,for take the stupid side in the case of someone had knife and bomb but he don't use the bomb , he used knife !

Did they find the bomb? I don't know. It doesn't actually matter. In fact, it doesn't actually matter if there actually was a bomb at all. What matters is the soldier reasonably believed that a Palestinian knife attacker wearing a heavy coat might have been wearing a bomb.

If history were filled with far fewer Palestinian suicide bombers, that wounded Palestinian might still be a live today. Maybe. In an alternate history, the shot that wounded him might have killed him instead, so you'd still have a dead Palestinian, and you'd still call the person who shot him a murderer, even though that guy would have been fully justified because he was attacked with a knife.

Just curious , in your country , your cops execute wounded "attacker" ?

 

[Godobeyer]

Implying we are still that stupid.

Of course you are !

 

[FearGod]

Implying we are still that stupid.

Who did say that you're stupid? but if you believe that you're so, then i have nothing to say.

 

[FearGod]

the soldier reasonably believed that a Palestinian knife attacker wearing a heavy coat might have been wearing a bomb.

And he planned to use it inside the ambulance and blaming me about thinking of how stupid some people are?

If history were filled with far fewer Palestinian suicide bombers, that wounded Palestinian might still be a live today. Maybe. In an alternate history, the shot that wounded him might have killed him instead, so you'd still have a dead Palestinian, and you'd still call the person who shot him a murderer, even though that guy would have been fully justified because he was attacked with a knife.

Trying to defend the evil is only reflecting your personality and what kind of person you're.

 

[Poisonshady313]

Trying to defend the evil is only reflecting your personality and what kind of person you're.

It is not evil to defend one's self and others from a threat. And the soldier thought that the attacker might have been wearing an explosive device, and acted accordingly.

Meanwhile, the military arrests the soldier, we hear condemnations from Israeli leadership, there's going to be a full investigation...

Yet the Palestinian Authority praises and glorifies individuals who slaughter families, including their young children and infants as they sleep in their beds, calling them martyrs.

Trying to defend the evil that is the PA and Hamas is a reflection of your personality and what kind of person you are.

 

[Poisonshady313]

You need to be apology for us,for take the stupid side in the case of someone had knife and bomb but he don't use the bomb , he used knife !

I owe you nothing. I may disagree with you, and you may disagree with me, but I haven't called you stupid.

Just curious , in your country , your cops execute wounded "attacker" ?

If that individual continued to pose a deadly threat, then it wouldn't be unreasonable.

 

[FearGod]

It is not evil to defend one's self and others from a threat. And the soldier thought that the attacker might have been wearing an explosive device, and acted accordingly.

Without court and without investigation, Law of the jungle, the animals way of life which you support.

Meanwhile, the military arrests the soldier, we hear condemnations from Israeli leadership, there's going to be a full investigation...

But you're with the soldier and without the need for any investigation.

Yet the Palestinian Authority praises and glorifies individuals who slaughter families, including their young children and infants as they sleep in their beds, calling them martyrs.

Palestinians are fighting for their freedom which you see it as an evil demand but i don't.

Trying to defend the evil that is the PA and Hamas is a reflection of your personality and what kind of person you are.

I'm defending the freedom for the weak and the innocents but you're with the tyrants which is the evil.

 

[Godobeyer]

I owe you nothing. I may disagree with you, and you may disagree with me, but I haven't called you stupid.

Anyone think that the Palestinian (whom being executed) had bomb and but he used a knife is STUPID .

If that individual continued to pose a deadly threat, then it wouldn't be unreasonable.

I am talking about the video (executing the lying/wounded man) ,is in your country the wounded criminal executed by the police,I don't think so.

 

[Aquitaine]

He was in the middle of a crowd.

I say that to you and not those other two as they won't and can't understand the importance of that fact. To them its all the same.





Implying we are still that stupid.

Aye, there seems to be this belief that Israel just can't do anything right: if they kill terrorists then they're evil, if they provide medical aid to injured terrorists then they're evil, as this thread shows.

In this OP , I guess you take the way of criminal soldier .



Israel claims that they launch rockets from UNHRW to avoid the condemnation of world.


There are cases when Jews attacked Arabs by knifes or by guns, on contrary Israel soldiers protect them while they shooting civilians Arabs !!!

I disagree with the idea that thinking a knife-wielding attacker may also be carrying explosives is a stupid idea. Especially in a country that has to put up with suicide bombing on a regular basis.

Ergo I can understand why the soldier felt the need to kill him in order to prevent what could have been an explosion.

 

[Godobeyer]

I disagree with the idea that thinking a knife-wielding attacker may also be carrying explosives is a stupid idea. Especially in a country that has to put up with suicide bombing on a regular basis.

Ergo I can understand why the soldier felt the need to kill him in order to prevent what could have been an explosion.

Indeed it's very stupid idea, and stupid persons who believe in , because he should used his bomb instead his knife to attack the soldiers.

The criminal had stupid ideas to justify their crimes.

 

[Aquitaine]

Indeed it's very stupid idea, and stupid persons who believe in , because he should used his bomb instead his knife to attack the soldiers.

The criminal had stupid ideas to justify their crimes.

It's not stupid. People who attack random people with knifes and people who blow themselves up aren't exactly thinking rationally in the first place. So who is to say it is unexpected for such a person to mix weapons like that?

In fact if I remember correctly, a muslima in Russia was in a shootout with the Russian security forces, she then blew up with a small pipebomb - the whole thing was caught on video. I'll try and find it.

 

[FearGod]

It's not stupid. People who attack random people with knifes and people who blow themselves up aren't exactly thinking rationally in the first place. So who is to say it is unexpected for such a person to mix weapons like that?

In fact if I remember correctly, a muslima in Russia was in a shootout with the Russian security forces, she then blew up with a small pipebomb - the whole thing was caught on video. I'll try and find it.

The soldier deserve to die because he's occupying their lands, so i can't blame the Palestinian
who was very brave while the ones supporting the tyrants are the cowards.

 

[Kirran]

The soldier deserve to die because he's occupying their lands, so i can't blame the Palestinian
who was very brave while the ones supporting the tyrants are the cowards.

Alternately, he was born in Israel, grew up in Israel, and is now in employment for the Israeli government. The fact that he was born in this area and happens to be a Jew doesn't automatically make him an 'occupier'. By the same logic the Arabs are occupying Algeria and Tunisia.

 

[FearGod]

Alternately, he was born in Israel, grew up in Israel, and is now in employment for the Israeli government. The fact that he was born in this area and happens to be a Jew doesn't automatically make him an 'occupier'. By the same logic the Arabs are occupying Algeria and Tunisia.

The soldiers should stay in the Israeli lands and not in the Palestinians lands,
Either you're ignorant or biased or ......

 

[Kirran]

The soldiers should stay in the Israeli lands and not in the Palestinians lands,
Either you're ignorant or biased or ......

Many Israeli people have been born and raised in the West Bank.

We're certainly all ignorant on this topic. I like to think I have no bias in either direction anymore.

Which tends to mean pro-Israelis think I'm pro-Palestine, and pro-Palestinians think I'm pro-Israel.

 

[FearGod]

Many Israeli people have been born and raised in the West Bank.

We're certainly all ignorant on this topic. I like to think I have no bias in either direction anymore.

Which tends to mean pro-Israelis think I'm pro-Palestine, and pro-Palestinians think I'm pro-Israel.

The soldiers should stay in their own territories and not in the Palestinians lands, that's a fair demand.