dust1n
Zindīq
It's fine. I'm still going to think that person is a douche though.
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Cultural Appropriation
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It's fine. I'm still going to think that person is a douche though.
Curious George
Veteran Member
Not sure why? Is his friend on the toga a douche as well?
dust1n
Zindīq
S/he could be.
Curious George
Veteran Member
That is quite different from "is."
dust1n
Zindīq
It is. A toga doesn't mean anything to anybody. I might consider it differently if the person in question was oblivious the their surroundings. Someone my age is mostly likely aware that wearing a headdress is offensive. So, if someone showed up to a party purposefully wearing something known to be offensive, I would think that person is kinda being a douche, yeah.
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
But on the other hand, people who think a non-native american wearing a headdress is offensive are racist, and who cares if racists are offended?
dust1n
Zindīq
Hmm? I wouldn't be offended by such an action. I would just think that person is obviously a douche.
Politesse
Amor Vincit Omnia
What?
If you have to be racist in order to notice racial politics, almost all people are racist. I would say all. Anyone who claims to be well and truly "colorblind" is trying to sell you something.
When did being of a certain cultural or, worse, racial background make it not-okay to wear or do certain things? What if they're genuinely deeply involved?
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
By "offended" I meant, anyone that thinks a person of a different ethnicity or nationality shouldn't participate in cultural fashions, rituals, etc, of another culture. That's racist, and xenophobic.
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
I'm pretty sure you misunderstood what I said, because this doesn't appear to address my post.
Marisa
Well-Known Member
Damn! Foiled again!
ETA: Can I just say I'm glad I wasn't asked which half of the kilt had to go?
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
You can wear a kilt, you'll just have to flog the half of yourself that isn't Scottish because you've offended your Scottish half.Damn! Foiled again!
ETA: Can I just I'm glad I wasn't asked which half of the kilt had to go?
Everyone appropriates the culture they are raised into.
We should take care about how well integrated people are in the cultures they adhere to, voluntarily or otherwise. But there is no such a thing as a true "native" culture.
We should take care about how well integrated people are in the cultures they adhere to, voluntarily or otherwise. But there is no such a thing as a true "native" culture.
Marisa
Well-Known Member
I'm not "in" to self flagellation.
Curious George
Veteran Member
Wearing a headdress is not offensive to many.
Here's a tricky one.....
The New Orleans "Indians" are black guys dressing & performing based upon native Indians.
Would it be "cultural appropriation" if actual Indians did the same?
The New Orleans "Indians" are black guys dressing & performing based upon native Indians.
Would it be "cultural appropriation" if actual Indians did the same?
dust1n
Zindīq
I see. So, if someone walked into one of your costume parties with black face, you wouldn't think nothing of it? Also, I say it's okay for someone to show up to a party in a headdress. It's also okay to think that person a douche bag for doing so.
dust1n
Zindīq
Not really familiar with it. According to a NoLa Mardi Gras site:
"Few in the ghetto felt they could ever participate in the typical New Orleans parade. Historically, slavery and racism were at the root of this cultural separation. The black neighborhoods in New Orleans gradually developed their own style of celebrating Mardi Gras. Their krewes are named for imaginary Indian tribes according to the streets of their ward or gang.
The Mardi Gras Indians named themselves after native Indians to pay them respect for their assistance in escaping the tyranny of slavery. It was often local Indians who accepted slaves into their society when they made a break for freedom. They have never forgotten this support."
http://www.mardigrasneworleans.com/mardigrasindians.html
Not to mention, the pictures I see appear an actual unique style of dress, that is obviously influenced by native American garb, but by African garb as well, and mix that it was carnival:
I recommend the TV series, Treme.Not really familiar with it. According to a NoLa Mardi Gras site:
"Few in the ghetto felt they could ever participate in the typical New Orleans parade. Historically, slavery and racism were at the root of this cultural separation. The black neighborhoods in New Orleans gradually developed their own style of celebrating Mardi Gras. Their krewes are named for imaginary Indian tribes according to the streets of their ward or gang.
The Mardi Gras Indians named themselves after native Indians to pay them respect for their assistance in escaping the tyranny of slavery. It was often local Indians who accepted slaves into their society when they made a break for freedom. They have never forgotten this support."
http://www.mardigrasneworleans.com/mardigrasindians.html
Not to mention, the pictures I see appear an actual unique style of dress, that is obviously influenced by native American garb, but by African garb as well, and mix that it was carnival:
One of the main characters is an "Indian".
It wasn't a big hit, but I really liked it.
Especially.....
.....when John Goodman's character dies.