What is your belief about homosexuality?

[Underhill]

My opinion is based solely on the word of God, which clearly states that Jesus is coming again, and there will be a judgement of the living and the dead. Judgement will be based on the deeds done in this life. The good news is God offers forgiveness through His Son Jesus for all of us. We are all sinners. God gave us the wonderful gift of free will. You cited the story of God asking Abraham to sacrifice his only son Isaac. You see, Abraham believed in God so deeply that he knew God wouldn't let any harm come to Isaac. Abraham had the love and trust God desires. And that's what it's all about. If we love and trust God with all of our hearts, we can overcome anything, including sin. Peace and blessings,
Katie

I understand that. I come from a very christian background and have read the bible cover to cover multiple times. I know the doctrine.

But any god who would ask a man to kill his son is not a moral being. It isn't about trust, or loving god. No one should ever ask that of a person. It is simply a despicable and terrible thing to do. The idea that a god would make man choose between god and his offspring is horrific.

I just recently watched the movie Dumb and Dumber and their pranks remind me of this passage. Tell your friend that you need a kidney and after he offers, after much thought and deliberation, to give you his; you inform him that, 'I was just messin with you!'. The mental anguish you are putting someone through in asking something so dire, it is just wrong.

 

[Ingledsva]

There are NO "homosexuals" in 1Cor. 6:9 either.

1 CO 6:9 Know you not that the “heathen” shall not inherit the Kingdom of God? Be not deceived: Neither prostitutes (pornos,) nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor the morally weak, nor arsenokoites (rapists,)

There are no ancient Greek texts using arsenokoites or its stem as homosexuality. There are uses for both male and female as RAPE.

The Thesaurus Linguae Graecae. TLG has collected and digitized most literary texts written in Greek, from the 8th century BC to the fall of Byzantium in AD 1453. They have 73 references to the arsenokoit stem. There are NO early Greek uses of the word as “homosexual.” LATER - the church decides to translate it as such – then these later texts copy the church original.
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From the beginning, God has looked upon homosexuality as an abomination. "'You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination." Leviticus 18:22

You will get your chance to argue your case when your time comes.

Katie

Not this one either! It is MOLECH Worship - SACRED SEX - from 21-30.

Lev 18:21 And your semen don’t give in copulation to MOLECH, and don’t desecrate/prostitute yourself, honor Elohiym, I am YHVH!

Lev 18:22 And with/for males, don't lie down in the beds/for intercourse woman, idolatry is this.

Note the strange wording, and NO "as with a" in 22.

Lev 18:23 And hence/also with any beasts don’t lay carnally defiling yourself. As/thus also woman shall not be employed to serve beasts in copulation! Unnatural/Bestiality it is!

Lev 18:30 Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that yecommit not any oneof these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I amthe LORD your God.

That word translated "customs" is chuqqah - STATUTES/LAWS/RITES

Homosexuality is not a LAW-STATUTE-RITE, etc, that they PRACTICED BEFORE!!!!!

However, Sacred Sex with the Qadeshah and Qadesh WAS!!!

Once again - we are talking about the Qadesh and Sacred Sex! Not homosexuals!


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[McBell]

You don't believe you will stand before the judgement seat some day?

I seriously doubt that I will ever be in judgement before your or anyone else's god.
therefore it is nothing more than hollow threat.

 

[Draka]

I won't have to argue my case. I have an advocate who will do that for me. His name is Jesus. He shed His blood for me and for you also. All you or anyone need do is believe in Him, repent of your sins, be baptized for the forgiveness of your sins, and walk in the light as He is in the light, confessing your sins and asking His forgiveness when needed. None of us is without sin, me included, but if you have not obeyed the gospel, come judgement day, you will stand alone. You will have no one to advocate for you. So ya, I do keep repeating it, and with a lot of confidence. We will all stand before the judgement seat of God some day.

You didn't get it did you? If you are faced with a deity or afterlife not of your belief I said. that means...no Jesus, no Abrahamic god, none of what the bible says was fact at all. You die and find that you are facing a completely different "reality" than you believed existed. That is what you are expecting everyone else to do. I wanted to put it back upon you. You expect everyone else to believe that we are going to be faced with something we have no belief in. And that we will have some imaginary argument. I posit it to you. What if you are *gasp* wrong? Can you picture yourself trying to defend your life to some deity you do not believe in nor have lived according to their ideals?

 

[katiemygirl]

According tot he word of Allah all Christians are infidels. How is the word of the bible to be trusted any more than the word of the Quran?

The word of God is to be trusted because our God is the one true God. He is the creator of all things. Allah is not God.

 

[katiemygirl]

You didn't get it did you? If you are faced with a deity or afterlife not of your belief I said. that means...no Jesus, no Abrahamic god, none of what the bible says was fact at all. You die and find that you are facing a completely different "reality" than you believed existed. That is what you are expecting everyone else to do. I wanted to put it back upon you. You expect everyone else to believe that we are going to be faced with something we have no belief in. And that we will have some imaginary argument. I posit it to you. What if you are *gasp* wrong? Can you picture yourself trying to defend your life to some deity you do not believe in nor have lived according to their ideals?

I'm not wrong. There is only one true God, the creator of all things.

And you Draka? Are you willing to take the chance? Do you have such a faith in some god that you can say with all confidence, "When I die, I know I am going to heaven." I can. I'm staking my eternal life on it. That's how sure I am. You can have that assurance also. If you want it, that is. It's your choice.

Consider giving Him a try. You'll never be sorry.

 

[Midnight Rain]

The word of God is to be trusted because our God is the one true God. He is the creator of all things. Allah is not God.

And by what authority do you trust this? Why could it not be Allah? Or Shiva? You say your god is the one true god but WHY do you believe that?

 

[nazz]

Not this one either! It is MOLECH Worship - SACRED SEX - from 21-30.

Lev 18:21 And your semen don’t give in copulation to MOLECH, and don’t desecrate/prostitute yourself, honor Elohiym, I am YHVH!

Lev 18:22 And with/for males, don't lie down in the beds/for intercourse woman, idolatry is this.

Note the strange wording, and NO "as with a" in 22.

Lev 18:23 And hence/also with any beasts don’t lay carnally defiling yourself. As/thus also woman shall not be employed to serve beasts in copulation! Unnatural/Bestiality it is!

Lev 18:30 Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that yecommit not any oneof these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I amthe LORD your God.

That word translated "customs" is chuqqah - STATUTES/LAWS/RITES

Homosexuality is not a LAW-STATUTE-RITE, etc, that they PRACTICED BEFORE!!!!!

However, Sacred Sex with the Qadeshah and Qadesh WAS!!!

Once again - we are talking about the Qadesh and Sacred Sex! Not homosexuals!


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I believe the other issue was homosexual rape of strangers/enemies

 

[katiemygirl]

And by what authority do you trust this? Why could it not be Allah? Or Shiva? You say your god is the one true god but WHY do you believe that?

Sorry Midnight Rain, but my answer to your question may be considered proslytizing (sp?), which is against the rules. If you wish to continue the conversation, I would be happy to message you.

 

[katiemygirl]

I seriously doubt that I will ever be in judgement before your or anyone else's god.
therefore it is nothing more than hollow threat.

Okay. I wish you the best Mestemia.

 

[Draka]

I'm not wrong. There is only one true God, the creator of all things.

And you Draka? Are you willing to take the chance? Do you have such a faith in some god that you can say with all confidence, "When I die, I know I am going to heaven." I can. I'm staking my eternal life on it. That's how sure I am. You can have that assurance also. If you want it, that is. It's your choice.

Consider giving Him a try. You'll never be sorry.

Nice refusal to answer the question. You cannot even entertain the idea that you could be wrong? Not even for hypothetical sake? You expect everyone else to just buy into your belief, with your condescending type speak, talk of you will see blah blah blah. And not once can you be expected to even imagine a scenario where you could be mistaken, where you would have to do the same and imagine a world where you could be wrong. Well guess what...you could be wrong. Not only that, but you most likely are wrong. There are numerous beliefs in the world regarding deity, the supernatural, paranormal, the afterlife and so on. All trying to make sense of beyond. The chance that anyone has it 100% right...about nil. But we take our best guesses, go with our best ideas based upon what knowledge we have gained and what experiences we have had. You are not unlike anyone else. Christians are not unlike those of any other religion. Your mythology is comparable to pretty much every other mythology. Your high and mighty attitude of you knowing better and not being subject to the same treatment as everyone else you talk to is rubbish. Plain and simple.

 

[psychoslice]

Any sex other than trying to bring a child into the world is pleasure, no matter how you want to dress this pleasure up in emotional silliness, its still pleasure.

 

[Draka]

Any sex other than trying to bring a child into the world is pleasure, no matter how you want to dress this pleasure up in emotional silliness, its still pleasure.

I have an iud. Any sex I have is for pleasure. Any hetero couple using birth control, or really any couple having sex without birth control but not having it during a woman's fertile time, is having sex for pleasure, not to make a baby.

 

[psychoslice]

Yep, its all pleasure, be it homosexual or heterosexual sex, or any other sex, mmmm.

 

[mimpibird39]

I voted natural and good because homosexuality in itself is not harmful (bad). Homosexuality itself isn't inherently harmful just like heterosexuality isn't inherently harmful. My religion also doesn't say anything against homosexuality. Just the opposite actually. Same-sex couples, love and sex are all perfectly fine within my religion.

 

[Midnight Rain]

Sorry Midnight Rain, but my answer to your question may be considered proslytizing (sp?), which is against the rules. If you wish to continue the conversation, I would be happy to message you.

If you'd like. I just wanted to know if there was rhyme or reason why or was it just faith.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

I don't even know why we're discussing this. What business is it of ours what consenting adults choose to do if they're not harming anyone?

 

[Draka]

I don't even know why we're discussing this. What business is it of ours what consenting adults choose to do if they're not harming anyone?

A few people have the really messed up and erroneous belief that somehow what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedrooms affects everyone. As screwed up as that is, they really truly hold to such insane ideas. Yep, didn't you know, John being with Henry directly impacts you? And Ann and Emily...they affect you too, even though you don't know them, have nothing to do with them, and live nowhere near them, or maybe even the state or country they live in. Yep, evil evil people they are, negatively affecting all us straight "normal" people in existence. And let's not forget how they damage children by daring to raise such sweet innocent creatures in need of loving homes. A blight on all humanity they are.

 

[katiemygirl]

Nice refusal to answer the question. You cannot even entertain the idea that you could be wrong? Not even for hypothetical sake? You expect everyone else to just buy into your belief, with your condescending type speak, talk of you will see blah blah blah. And not once can you be expected to even imagine a scenario where you could be mistaken, where you would have to do the same and imagine a world where you could be wrong. Well guess what...you could be wrong. Not only that, but you most likely are wrong. There are numerous beliefs in the world regarding deity, the supernatural, paranormal, the afterlife and so on. All trying to make sense of beyond. The chance that anyone has it 100% right...about nil. But we take our best guesses, go with our best ideas based upon what knowledge we have gained and what experiences we have had. You are not unlike anyone else. Christians are not unlike those of any other religion. Your mythology is comparable to pretty much every other mythology. Your high and mighty attitude of you knowing better and not being subject to the same treatment as everyone else you talk to is rubbish. Plain and simple.

Why the personal attack?

If you'd like. I just wanted to know if there was rhyme or reason why or was it just faith.

Faith mainly, but some rhyme or reason as well.

 

[Draka]

Why the personal attack?

You see it as personal attack, I see it as merely stating the truth. You, in fact, do come off as condescending and high and mighty when you speak to everyone else here as if you KNOW when you merely believe. You make statements telling everybody else how they will have to confront your version of god yet you are unwilling to even entertain the notion, the simple idea, that you could be facing a reality other than the one you believe in. You don't answer my question, you deflect. You want to put out such statements and questions to others to assert that your belief is right and expect them to just buy it or consider it to change their minds, then you should be willing to address the same type of statements and questions put to you.