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What makes the christian god the 'true god'?

Renji

Well-Known Member
Alright, first of all, I am not condemning any religion or group of people by asking this. But I just want to know, from the christians of this forum, what makes you believe in what you believe in? What makes you believe in the christian god and not believe in other gods (like Thor, Zeus, etc). And for those who are going to quote from the scriptures (the bible, dogmas, etc), what makes such scripture above anything else/worth believing for? Thanks. :)
 

Thana

Lady
Well, God makes me believe in Him ;) And I've found Christianity (Non-Denom) to be the best way for me to reach Him and to learn more about Him and to do His will. I'm not saying there aren't others way to know God, I'm just saying that my interpretation of Christianity resonates with me, It's teachings inspire me and encourage me to grow spiritually.

As to other Gods, I know they're not my God and that's all I need to know about them. It is a sort of ignorance, But one I'm content with.

It's worth believing if it's worth believing to you, Otherwise it's a waste of time. God calls us, If you get the call you get the call. And as they say, If the shoe fits... :)
 

Ultimatum

Classical Liberal
Alright, first of all, I am not condemning any religion or group of people by asking this. But I just want to know, from the christians of this forum, what makes you believe in what you believe in? What makes you believe in the christian god and not believe in other gods (like Thor, Zeus, etc). And for those who are going to quote from the scriptures (the bible, dogmas, etc), what makes such scripture above anything else/worth believing for? Thanks. :)

They were taught from the beginning that this God was the correct one. There was no logical argument for why they believed in that particular God..

As they say: Religion obeys borders (culture; upbringing)
 

Ultimatum

Classical Liberal
Well, God makes me believe in Him ;) And I've found Christianity (Non-Denom) to be the best way for me to reach Him and to learn more about Him and to do His will. I'm not saying there aren't others way to know God, I'm just saying that my interpretation of Christianity resonates with me, It's teachings inspire me and encourage me to grow spiritually.

As to other Gods, I know they're not my God and that's all I need to know about them. It is a sort of ignorance, But one I'm content with.

It's worth believing if it's worth believing to you, Otherwise it's a waste of time. God calls us, If you get the call you get the call. And as they say, If the shoe fits... :)

Wrong, it's not "If the shoe fits..."
It's "The shoe was made to fit" (in terms of parental influence, upbringing, culture)
 

Heim

Active Member
Wrong, it's not "If the shoe fits..."
It's "The shoe was made to fit" (in terms of parental influence, upbringing, culture)
Yes. And a good thing it is too. This cultural reproduction allows for societies to maintain a certain stability. Also, the process is not limited to religious meanings and practices.
 

Thana

Lady
Wrong, it's not "If the shoe fits..."
It's "The shoe was made to fit" (in terms of parental influence, upbringing, culture)

Sometimes true, But not even close to always.
Besides, That statement is too much of a generalisation that I can't even bother to address it.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Thana said:
Ultimatum said:
The shoe was made to fit" (in terms of parental influence, upbringing, culture)
Sometimes true, But not even close to always.
Sure it is. All elements of religious belief have been cobbled together to suit the needs of the believer. Some of this happened hundreds, even thousands of years ago, and some of it continues today; tweaking various elements so as to fit the needs of either those in charge, the flock, or both.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Sometimes true, But not even close to always.
Besides, That statement is too much of a generalisation that I can't even bother to address it.

It seems to me that it is inevitably going to be a bit of both. The general framework of a religion appeals or does not appeal to someone. From there, every individual is going to tailor aspects of that overall religious framework to suit their needs.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Alright, first of all, I am not condemning any religion or group of people by asking this. But I just want to know, from the christians of this forum, what makes you believe in what you believe in? What makes you believe in the christian god and not believe in other gods (like Thor, Zeus, etc). And for those who are going to quote from the scriptures (the bible, dogmas, etc), what makes such scripture above anything else/worth believing for? Thanks. :)
That's not an easy question to answer. But, I assume, since Christians believe in only one God, then they would believe that any other gods would not be the "true" God. They wouldn't even acknowledge that it could be the same God.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Alright, first of all, I am not condemning any religion or group of people by asking this. But I just want to know, from the christians of this forum, what makes you believe in what you believe in? What makes you believe in the christian god and not believe in other gods (like Thor, Zeus, etc). And for those who are going to quote from the scriptures (the bible, dogmas, etc), what makes such scripture above anything else/worth believing for? Thanks. :)

Most I speak with have had some kind of spiritual experience in the context of Christian ideology.

You have some kind of spiritual experience and the brain fills in the details. So whatever you experience plus what you've been conditioned to expect ends up supporting the belief.
 

nazz

Doubting Thomas
Alright, first of all, I am not condemning any religion or group of people by asking this. But I just want to know, from the christians of this forum, what makes you believe in what you believe in? What makes you believe in the christian god and not believe in other gods (like Thor, Zeus, etc). And for those who are going to quote from the scriptures (the bible, dogmas, etc), what makes such scripture above anything else/worth believing for? Thanks. :)
I have believed in other gods. But Jesus was the only one who made himself known to me.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
That's not an easy question to answer. But, I assume, since Christians believe in only one God, then they would believe that any other gods would not be the "true" God. They wouldn't even acknowledge that it could be the same God.

Yet they experience God as three. Well maybe two at least. They experience Jesus and the holy ghost. God is one is what they are told? The experience of the Son and HS support Christianity therefore the belief in one God. Never really heard of any direct experience with God. Jesus and the HS are real to them therefore so is the Father.

Not really monotheism, just what they are taught, what they experience is one God so accept the truth of that.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
Yet they experience God as three. Well maybe two at least. They experience Jesus and the holy ghost. God is one is what they are told? The experience of the Son and HS support Christianity therefore the belief in one God. Never really heard of any direct experience with God. Jesus and the HS are real to them therefore so is the Father.

Not really monotheism, just what they are taught, what they experience is one God so accept the truth of that.
We are taught that it is one God, not three. One man compared the Trinity to a triangle. But the Trinity is whole different discussion.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The overwhelming evidence suggests that how and where we're brought up mostly shapes our general beliefs. If you were brought up in Saudi Arabia, it's highly unlikely you'd be Jewish or Christian. Same is true of you were brought up in Bhutan, which is heavily Buddhist.
 
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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Thana
As to other Gods, I know they're not my God and that's all I need to know about them. It is a sort of ignorance, But one I'm content with.
It's worth believing if it's worth believing to you, Otherwise it's a waste of time. God calls us, If you get the call you get the call. And as they say, If the shoe fits... :)
This sounds henotheistic. Isn't acknowledgement of other Gods or other paths against most Christian teaching?

Yet they experience God as three. Well maybe two at least. They experience Jesus and the holy ghost. God is one is what they are told? The experience of the Son and HS support Christianity therefore the belief in one God. Never really heard of any direct experience with God. Jesus and the HS are real to them therefore so is the Father.
Sometimes more than just three. Catholics, I believe, pray more often to Mary and various saints than to Jesus or God directly, yet they vehemently deny polytheism.[/quote][/quote]
 

Adstar

Active Member
Alright, first of all, I am not condemning any religion or group of people by asking this. But I just want to know, from the christians of this forum, what makes you believe in what you believe in? What makes you believe in the christian god and not believe in other gods (like Thor, Zeus, etc). And for those who are going to quote from the scriptures (the bible, dogmas, etc), what makes such scripture above anything else/worth believing for? Thanks. :)

The Christian God makes sense. The Way of Salvation He has provided makes sense. There is no other way that mankind could ever be reconciled with God and Redeemed. Only by the Atonement and Grace could mankind be saved. One thing is certain no human can achieve a life without sin.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
I still have trouble understanding precisely what it is I'm supposed to be "saved" from. In general, the entire argument that the god of the classical monotheists (whether the Christian, Jewish, or Islamic variant thereof) is the "correct" one hinges on presuppositions I either do not understand or disagree with. It's like trying to tell me there is only one true favorite color or something.

By the way, the one true favorite color is totally green.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The Christian God makes sense. The Way of Salvation He has provided makes sense. There is no other way that mankind could ever be reconciled with God and Redeemed. Only by the Atonement and Grace could mankind be saved. One thing is certain no human can achieve a life without sin.
This all presupposes the truth of Christian mythology, of course.

Why do we need saving? Saving from what?
Atonement? Grace? -- myths; extrapolated animal sacrifice.
Sin? What's sin? Who decided what acts were sinful?
God... No comment
 
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