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Jesus did not die on the Cross

muslims

New Member
Salamun Alaika/Shalom all!

I've been reading all the posts and replies . . and yes, Islam and Christianity do differ about this. I have done a whole study of the Qur'an, the Qur'an does not say that 'Eesa (P) (Jesus') was taken up alive. There is no second coming of Jesus according to the Qur'an.

'Eesa (P) passed away like other Messengers of God:

“Muhammad is no more than a messenger: many were the messengers that passed away before him. . .” (3.144)

. . . وما محمد إلا رسول قد خلت من قبله الرسل



Peace,
Muslims
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Salamun Alaika/Shalom all!

I've been reading all the posts and replies . . and yes, Islam and Christianity do differ about this. I have done a whole study of the Qur'an, the Qur'an does not say that 'Eesa (P) (Jesus') was taken up alive. There is no second coming of Jesus according to the Qur'an.

'Eesa (P) passed away like other Messengers of God:

“Muhammad is no more than a messenger: many were the messengers that passed away before him...” (3.144)

وما محمد إلا رسول قد خلت من قبله الرسل



Peace,
Muslims

Esu ascended.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
One-answer, I know it's not an easy idea to digest, but Jesus WAS UNDER THE CURSE of GOD. That's why there was darkness over the land, that's why Jesus quoted Psalm 22!![Please read it!] That's why Jesus DIED. He bore the sin of all who would believe in him as Saviour! Although he was sinless, he allowed himself to become the curse of God. It was only AFTER he had accomplished this punishment for sin, when he was in the grave, that his Father RAISED him to life again. As it was with JONAH.

Now do you understand, HE HAD TO DIE. HE was a sacrificial lamb.

Exodus 12:5,6: Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ye shall take it out from the sheep, or from the goats: And ye shall keep it up until the fourteenth day of the same month: and the whole assembly of the congregation of Israel shall kill it in the evening [or, between the two evenings]
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Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908 has explained as to what is meant by the curse of God:

It is a cruel and an unjust blasphemy to attribute a curse to an eminent person like Jesus, the Messiah, for, according to the agreed view of all who know the language, la'nat, or curse, has reference to the state of one's heart.

A man would be said to be accursed when his heart, having been estranged from God, becomes really dark; when, deprived of divine mercy and of divine love, devoid absolutely of His Knowledge, blinded like the devil, he becomes filled with the poison of unbelief; when there remains not a ray of divine love and knowledge in him; when the bond of loyalty is broken, and between him and God there arises hatred and contempt and spite and hostility, so much so that God and he become mutual enemies; and when God becomes weary of him and he becomes weary of God; in short, when he becomes an heir to all the attributes of the Devil -- and that is why the Devil himself is called accursed.3

It is clear that the significance of the word Mal'un, viz. accursed, is so foul that it can never apply to any righteous person who entertains love of God in his heart. Alas! Christians did not ponder over the significance of a curse when they invented this belief; else, it were impossible for them to have used such a bad word for a righteous man like Jesus.

Can we say that Jesus' heart was ever really estranged from God; that he had denied God, that he hated Him and had become His enemy? Can we ever think that Jesus had ever felt in his heart that he was estranged from God, that he was an enemy of God, and that he was immersed in the darkness of unbelief and denial? If, then, Jesus had never been in such a state of mind, that his heart was always full of love and the light of Divine Knowledge, is it for you, wise people, to ponder whether we can ever say that, not one, but thousands of curses from God had descended upon the heart of Jesus with all their evil significance? Never.

Then, how can we say that he was, God forbid, accursed? It is a pity that once a man has given utterance to something, when he has taken his stand upon a particular belief, he is not inclined to give up that belief, however much the absurdity thereof be exposed. Desire to attain salvation, if grounded upon true foundations, is a praiseworthy thing, but where is the sense in having a desire for salvation which kills truth and which countenances, regarding a holy prophet arid a perfect man, the belief that he had as it were passed through a state in which he had been estranged from God, and in which, instead of unity of heart and unity of inclination, there had been produced a strangeness and aloofness, enmity and hatred; and, instead of light, darkness had surrounded his heart?

Let it also be noticed that this not only detracts from the prophethood and apostleship of Jesus (on whom be the peace of God) but it is also derogatory to his claim to spiritual eminence, holiness, love, and knowledge of God, to which he has repeatedly given expression in the gospels. Just look through the Bible; therein Jesus clearly claims that he is the Light of the world, that he is the Guide, and that he stands in a relation of great love towards God; that he has been honoured by a clean birth, and that he is the loved Son of God. How then, in spite of these pure and holy relations, can a curse, with all its significance, be attributed to Jesus? No, never.

Therefore, there is no doubt that Jesus was not crucified, i.e., he did not die on the Cross, for his personality did not deserve the underlying consequence of death on the Cross. Not having been crucified, he was spared the impure implications of a curse, and no doubt it also proves that he did not go to heaven, for going to heaven formed part of this whole scheme and was a consequence of the idea of his having been crucified. Therefore, when it is proved that he was neither accursed, nor did he go to hell for three days, nor did he suffer death the other part of the scheme, namely, that he went to heaven, is proved to be wrong.

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Jesus was never under any curse. Why should he be under the curse when he was an innocent human being. Curse and innocence cannot be in one person.

He was under trial as Moses mother was.

Regards
 

muslims

New Member
Esu ascended.

Thank you for your reply, 'Eesa (P) died a natural death and will be raised up as any other Prophet according to the Qur'an:

Yahya (John):

And peace be upon him the day he was born and the day he dies and the day he is raised alive. (19.15)​

'Eesa (Jesus):

And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive." (19.33)​
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
Salamun Alaika/Shalom all!

I've been reading all the posts and replies . . and yes, Islam and Christianity do differ about this. I have done a whole study of the Qur'an, the Qur'an does not say that 'Eesa (P) (Jesus') was taken up alive. There is no second coming of Jesus according to the Qur'an.

'Eesa (P) passed away like other Messengers of God:

“Muhammad is no more than a messenger: many were the messengers that passed away before him. . .” (3.144)
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Peace,
Muslims

Quraan does say that Jesus peace be upon him was raised alive. One must really know the Arabic language to know that if he were to read the Quraan alone. If not, one must read the Quraan along with the explanations because the Arabic language is very precise and one letter or even vowel (which are used for each letter) can make the whole meaning change.
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
One-answer, you are quite right to say that no man is perfect - ONLY Jesus Christ is perfect and sinless. That's why he is God's only begotten son.

Friend, I have already showed you that the verse saying begotten son has been removed by 32 scholars because it was a fabrication. You are neglecting that fact. you are neglecting facts and sticking to what you have been told. Don't you think it is time to question some things rather than repeating it again?

Jesus peace be upon him was a prophet and all prophets were at the highest rank and they were examples to follow. Maybe that is not is the case in the bible because for example, in the bible, prophet Noah was an alcoholic, which of course he is not. There are many twisted stories in the bible and the greatest twist and hurting one is the one making Jesus peace be upon him claiming divinity.

Matthew 7:21-27King James Version (KJV)

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


Jesus said unto him, 'I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by me.'

Every prophet was the way, the truth and the life ( road to eternal life) in his time for every time had a prophet.

Jesus is NOT GIVING US FREEDOM TO SIN, HE IS GIVING US FREEDOM TO LOVE.

Jesus peace be upon him is not giving freedom to sin I agree. However, the wrong belief that Jesus peace be upon him died for our sins and that we are forgiven DOES give the freedom to sin. Do you really think God would choose that way for salvation? Do you think if Hitler believed in Jesus peace be upon him he will be saved and have eternal life? Do you think his actions will count for nothing? Only belief is what he wants?

What did he say to the woman caught in adultery? Did he say she was forgiven and could go and sin as much as she liked? NO! He said, Go and SIN NO MORE. (John 8:11)

He said SIN MO MORE and yet again and again you repeat the we are sinners. If we are sinners why did he tell her SIN NO MORE? Why didn't he tell her believe in me and you shall be saved?

I repeat what I said earlier, I am proving every point I am providing from the bible it self and you are also trying to refute it from the bible itself. Doesn't this tell us something about the bible?



Why would Jesus want us to carry on sinning? He gave his life to save us from sin and death. He wants us to follow his commandments - to love God and love our neighbour.


He doesn't want us to carry on sinning, he want us to stop sinning. The way to that is by following the commandments and worshiping God, as Jesus peace be upon his has taught. The way to that is loving God and loving the neighbour as you have provided. It is what you said above, without what I highlighted in red.


Jesus wants us to follow the commandments sinlessly, but we can't because we are sinners by nature. To be able to follow the commandments sinlessly we must be born-again of God's spirit. That's why the baptism that Jesus came to bring is essential! You must believe and receive the HOLY SPIRIT.

False, as I have provided before, the example of the son who has sinned and came to his father and told him that he has sinned. The father said that he were dead but now he is alive. This is the teaching of the bible, it is the teaching of repent. It is the way in which one is born again.

21 And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son.

22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:

23 And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry:

24 For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. And they began to be merry.

25 Now his elder son was in the field: and as he came and drew nigh to the house, he heard musick and dancing.

26 And he called one of the servants, and asked what these things meant.

27 And he said unto him, Thy brother is come; and thy father hath killed the fatted calf, because he hath received him safe and sound.

28 And he was angry, and would not go in: therefore came his father out, and intreated him.

29 And he answering said to his father, Lo, these many years do I serve thee, neither transgressed I at any time thy commandment: and yet thou never gavest me a kid, that I might make merry with my friends:

30 But as soon as this thy son was come, which hath devoured thy living with harlots, thou hast killed for him the fatted calf.

31 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.

32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again; and was lost, and is found.



I think I have made my point through exchanging some replies. I repeat what I provided, I used the bible it self to prove it.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
paarsurrey,
To say that Jesus was 'made a curse for us' (Galatians 3:13) means that he was the one upon whom the curse rested, the curse being the punishment for sin.

It may be wrong to say that Jesus was under the curse of God - these are my words, not the words of scripture. The curse is the punishment that results from the works of the law. So Jesus did not become any less perfect as the result of being crucified. He endured crucifixion, to the end that he died. His soul then descended into the grave.

If you look back to Deuteronomy (11:26)and the story of Baalam, you find that God is able to turn a curse into a blessing. (See Nehemiah 13:2)

So it is with Jesus Christ. Although he took the punishment (the curse) for sin, he turned it into a blessing by being resurrected and by giving eternal life to all who would believe in him.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
paarsurrey,
To say that Jesus was 'made a curse for us' (Galatians 3:13) means that he was the one upon whom the curse rested, the curse being the punishment for sin.

It may be wrong to say that Jesus was under the curse of God - these are my words, not the words of scripture. The curse is the punishment that results from the works of the law. So Jesus did not become any less perfect as the result of being crucified. He endured crucifixion, to the end that he died. His soul then descended into the grave.

If you look back to Deuteronomy (11:26)and the story of Baalam, you find that God is able to turn a curse into a blessing. (See Nehemiah 13:2)

So it is with Jesus Christ. Although he took the punishment (the curse) for sin, he turned it into a blessing by being resurrected and by giving eternal life to all who would believe in him.

I don't agree with you.

Regards
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
One-answer,
As regards the use of the word 'begotten', I want you to look to all the various passages in which the term is used. It is not just one verse.

John 1:14, 'And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.'

John 1:18, 'No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.'

John 3:16, 'For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.'

John 3:18, 'He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.'

1 John 4:9, 'In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.'

There is absolutely no doubt about the authenticity of these passages. As I have said before, if you start to resort to the RSV you will have problems.

It is not simply a matter of the passages just quoted either. The Gospels of Matthew and Luke give accounts of Gabriel's visitation and Mary's virgin conception. This is what the word 'begotten' refers to in a temporal sense. Mary was overshadowed by the Holy Spirit and the egg in her womb was miraculously fertilized.
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
One-answer,
In Matthew 7, Jesus makes it clear that the Holy Spirit provides both powers and fruits. If you receive the manifestations of the gift, such as healing or prophesy, but fail to demonstrate the fruit of the spirit, such as love and patience, you cannot expect to enter the kingdom of God. Remember, a good tree is known by its fruit.

You should not use Matthew 7 to claim that the manifestations of the gift of the Holy Spirit are not of value to the church, but recognise that they must be used in LOVE.

And what are the commandments of Jesus if not to love?
 
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Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
One-answer,
The reason that Jesus didn't say to the woman caught in adultery 'Believe in me and you will be saved' is because it would have meant nothing to her at that point in time. She clearly understood the words, 'Sin no more'.

To believe in the RISEN CHRIST, Jesus has to have been crucified and resurrected! Jesus Christ died to take our punishment, and is the first-fruits of the harvest of them that are raised to eternal life.

We gain access to God through the blood of Christ, not through our own works or goodness.
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
One-answer,
In Matthew 7, Jesus makes it clear that the Holy Spirit provides both powers and fruits. If you receive the manifestations of the gift, such as healing or prophesy, but fail to demonstrate the fruit of the spirit, such as love and patience, you cannot expect to enter the kingdom of God. Remember, a good tree is known by its fruit.



If that is your answer, than you are contradicting yourself. In matthew, they are saying LORD LORD, that means the believe that Jesus peace be upon him is their lord, yet he says depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Why is he saying this to people who believe in him.

You said a tree is known by its fruits. Look at we muslims having five prayers a day and still the number of people who go to the mosque are more than people who go to church (weekly). Look at the modesty of women. Check who consumes more alcohol Muslims or Christians. Look who gives charity more Christians or muslims.

And what are the commandments of Jesus if not to love?

There are many commandments that Jesus peace be upon him asked us to keep.
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
One-answer,
The reason that Jesus didn't say to the woman caught in adultery 'Believe in me and you will be saved' is because it would have meant nothing to her at that point in time. She clearly understood the words, 'Sin no more'.

To believe in the RISEN CHRIST, Jesus has to have been crucified and resurrected! Jesus Christ died to take our punishment, and is the first-fruits of the harvest of them that are raised to eternal life.

We gain access to God through the blood of Christ, not through our own works or goodness.


Through your first lines it seems that you would keep on your position no matter how many proof I have provided or no matter how this seems contradicting to what Jesus peace be upon him taught. Just please tell me, is that the case? If that is it than I think this debate means nothing.

The way I see it is that every time I provide more evidence, you start by explaining your position and you seem more insisting on it. Please clarify if that is the case
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Further to posts #4, 45, and 54,423,448.

We will look into Surah/Chapter No.3 of Quran to its end: [7]

The Holy Quran : Chapter 3: Aal-e-`Imran

[3:61] This is the truth from thy Lord, so be thou not of those who doubt.
[3:62] Now whoso disputes with thee concerning him, after what has come to thee of knowledge, say to him, ‘Come, let us call our sons and your sons, and our women and your women, and our people and your people; then let us pray fervently and invoke the curse of Allah on those who lie.’
[3:63] This certainly is the true account. There is none worthy of worship save Allah; and surely, it is Allah Who is the Mighty, the Wise.
[3:64] But if they turn away, then remember that Allah knows the mischief-makers well.
[3:65] Say, ‘O People of the Book! come to a word equal between us and you — that we worship none but Allah, and that we associate no partner with Him, and that some of us take not others for Lords beside Allah.’ But if they turn away, then say, ‘Bear witness that we have submitted to God.’
[3:66] O People of the Book! why do you dispute concerning Abraham, when the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till after him? Will you not then understand?
[3:67] Behold! you are those who disputed about that whereof you had knowledge. Why then do you now dispute about that whereof you have no knowledge at all? Allah knows, and you know not.
[3:68] Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was ever inclined to God andobedient to Him, and he was not of those who associate gods with God.
[3:69] Surely, the nearest of men to Abraham are those who followed him, and this Prophet and those who believe; and Allah is the friend of believers.
[3:70] A section of the People of the Book would fain lead you astray; but they lead astray none except themselves, only they perceive not.
The Holy Quran Arabic text with Translation in English text and Search Engine - Al Islam Online
Outhouse, Redemptionsong, or any other poster here to please prove threadbare:

1. Which verses of this chapter have been copied/plagiarized from Christian Gospels?
2. What argument/s have been given from Christian Gospels of NT-Bible or Quran, if any, to prove that “Jesus did not die on the Cross”?


Regards
 

Redemptionsong

Well-Known Member
One-answer,
Let's go back to the scriptures and look again, carefully, at the words spoken by Jesus. You say that you believe in Jesus as a prophet, but actually, you only believe the bits that fit with your interpretation of scripture and with the Qur'an.

The words that follow are not my words, they are the words of scripture, and fit together in an unbroken tapestry. And if you think I'm repeating myself then look again, 'the scripture cannot be broken' (John 10:35) This is what JESUS SAID.

Jesus also said,
'No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse.
Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.' (Matthew 9:17)

Do you understand what this is telling us?
It's repeated in Mark (2:22) and Luke (5:37) so it must be important.

This relates to whetheror not you understand the nature of the new covenant.

You seem to think that the new covenant is made up of keeping the old law, but this is not the case.

Jesus said (John 13:34) 'A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.'

Now look at Hebrews 12:24. It says, 'and to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant'. How can Jesus be the mediator of the new covenant, do you think? How can he MEDIATE without being connected to the old covenant and the new? How can the two be linked together without Jesus accomplishing something to bring in the new covenant?

You seem to want to say that Jesus came to tell us to believe in God! What do you think the Jews were doing before he came? They kept trying to follow God, the same way that you now try to follow Allah. They did their best to follow the commandments. They had a religion that was from God.

Islam is not a new covenant with God, it's a return to the old covenant, or law. Can't you see that? But worse than that, it's not even the law that was delivered to Moses. It's a perverted law.

Listen again to the words of Jesus, 'Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.' (Matthew 5:17,18)

If you believe the words of Jesus, you will accept that he says HE will complete the law. To do so a person must be PERFECT.

Now, if you wish to follow the law and be perfect, then do so. But make sure you accomplish every jot and tittle.

Meanwhile, sinners like myself will look to Jesus Christ as 'the author and finisher of our faith' (Hebrews 12:2), 'who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despised the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.'
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
One-answer,
Let's go back to the scriptures and look again, carefully, at the words spoken by Jesus. You say that you believe in Jesus as a prophet, but actually, you only believe the bits that fit with your interpretation of scripture and with the Qur'an.

I told you I am a muslim and I believe in the Quraan. My style in answering you and quoting the bible is just to show you the fact there are things in the bible contrary to what a christian is taught and there are parts of the bible that are contradicting.

I prove something from the bible and you prove the opposite thing, from the bible too.

The words that follow are not my words, they are the words of scripture, and fit together in an unbroken tapestry. And if you think I'm repeating myself then look again, 'the scripture cannot be broken' (John 10:35) This is what JESUS SAID.

I doubt they are the words of the scripture also. I invite you again to go back to the original Hebrew or conic greek language in notice the differences.

Now you seem to emphasize on what Jesus peace be upon him said and neglect what I was posting about what Jesus peace be upon him said before.



You seem to think that the new covenant is made up of keeping the old law, but this is not the case.

Jesus said (John 13:34) 'A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.'

Now look at Hebrews 12:24. It says, 'and to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant'. How can Jesus be the mediator of the new covenant, do you think? How can he MEDIATE without being connected to the old covenant and the new? How can the two be linked together without Jesus accomplishing something to bring in the new covenant?

You seem to want to say that Jesus came to tell us to believe in God! What do you think the Jews were doing before he came? They kept trying to follow God, the same way that you now try to follow Allah. They did their best to follow the commandments. They had a religion that was from God.


Jesus peace be upon him said NEW commandment. Does this cancel what was before?

You quoted that Jesus peace be upon him came to fulfill the law of prophets and not to destroy them. Well I agree. Who do you think is actually destroying the law of the prophets? Isn't it the one trying to say that Jesus peace be upon him told people to believe that he came to die on the cross and you have to believe that in order to be saved?

DO you call this fulfilling the law? I call it destroying the law !



Islam is not a new covenant with God, it's a return to the old covenant, or law. Can't you see that? But worse than that, it's not even the law that was delivered to Moses. It's a perverted law.

Islam we know today comes through the final revelation to the last prophet which is the Quraan. That doesn't mean there is no second coming for Jesus peace be upon him though.

Listen again to the words of Jesus, 'Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.' (Matthew 5:17,18)

Yet you try to destroy it by making Jesus peace be upon him say that he claimed divinity and he taught that the way to heaven is by believing in him


If you believe the words of Jesus, you will accept that he says HE will complete the law. To do so a person must be PERFECT.


I accept what Jesus peace be upon him Really said :) I am a follower of all the prophets. I am sure of the Quraan's accuracy because it has been preserved. This is not to put down the Injeel. Injeel and Torah were also the revelations from God to our prophets Moses and Jesus peace be upon them. I am putting down those who lie about the bible and say that this is from God and these are the words of Jesus peace be upon him when they are not.

Quraan has always been at the hands of the people and is in an alive language. This is the way God wanted it to be because it was the last prophet and the last revelation.

Now, if you wish to follow the law and be perfect, then do so. But make sure you accomplish every jot and tittle.

I am not perfect. No one is perfect.

You are not a sinner. No one is a sinner.

We are humans. We are weak yes. But we are not perfectly bad as we are not perfectly good. God has sent us down messengers and prophets to show us the way to follow the commandments.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Thank you for your reply, 'Eesa (P) died a natural death and will be raised up as any other Prophet according to the Qur'an:

Yahya (John):

And peace be upon him the day he was born and the day he dies and the day he is raised alive. (19.15)​

'Eesa (Jesus):

And peace is on me the day I was born and the day I will die and the day I am raised alive." (19.33)​

'Eesa (P) died a natural death and will be raised up as any other Prophet according to the Qur'an

That is correct, Jesus never died on the Cross.

Regards
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Muffled,
Sura 4:157,158. This states clearly that Jesus was not crucified. Verse 158 says that Jesus was raised up into the heavens. (Translation By Muhammad Al-Hilali)

Sura 37:100-107 tells the story of Abraham's intended sacrifice and trial. Notice that in verse 101, the son appears to be his only son at the time, un-named.
His eldest son, named in Sura 2:126 is also helping with the construction of the Ka'ba. Is it not Ishmael?
Ask a Muslim here who was taken to be sacrificed - what does he say?

Yes I believe it does and He was not. However it appearss that He was as the verse says. So someone observing Jesus on the cross would report in his writing that Jesus died on the cross and I believe you will find that in the Bible.

I believe this isn't exactly what happened but it is close enough to be concidered true but it is not a physical raising at this time and the Qu'ran certainly doesn't say that it is.

Since I believe it says that it is the son that is given by God then it can be none other than Isaac.

I believe this does not appear to be pertinent.
 
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