Enough!

[savagewind]

If people dont like the GB, then thats fine. [/COLOR][/I]

Your friend of forum says it isn't fine. Is it fine or not fine?

Let the naysayers go find their own path to Christ.... we have found one that fully supports us and keeps us spiritually alive. And we love them for their faithful adherence to Gods word and to Christs command.

Am I naysaying Jesus Christ, Jehovah or even YHVH? You are not putting your own group above them, are you?

But they should not let that interfere with their responsibility.... let them go and find another organisation who will support them in being a follower of Christ.

I hear you say a person's responsibility is to "find [the] organization who will support them being a follower of Jesus Christ". My responsibility as a Christian is to love The True God (your Jehovah) with my whole heart mind souls and strenght and my neighbor as myself.

And if they can't find another organisation then perhaps they need to take the view of the Apostle Peter who said... "Lord, to whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life"

Are you a Jehovah's Witness? Or are you a witness for an organization?

 

[savagewind]

The responsiblity placed on all christians is to preach the good news of the kingdom. The WT organisation is the only christian organisation on earth devoted to helping us fulfill that requirement in harmony with the Bible.

Agreed. Kinda sorta anyway...

Agreed? Please tell us how.

 

[savagewind]

The Bible says seek God. Zephaniah 2:3 Representatives of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society say seek it's organization. Where in the Bible does it say this? It must say it somewhere because they are " devoted to helping us fulfill that requirement in harmony with the Bible."

If a person is to "seek God's organization" what is going door to door for? Isn't going door to door for seeking people who's job it is to seek them? Blame me for crazy. I just wrote it.

Jesus says "God is not far off from each one". Then he said forget God, what you really need are the people for God. Go find them! How can I find them if they are not for God until they join us?

The poor lady will accuse me again of damage to the governing body. Have I said anything about the men of the governing body? I am sure I have not. So according to the ladies the governing body and what they say is the same thing. Wait a minute! That is Jesus. Jesus is the word so it is he who is the same as what he says. And now we have a few more people who are the same as what they say.

You will call me confused. I can see perfectly.

 

[savagewind]

I am not going to leave it alone.

 

[savagewind]

No answer yet to the question. What have I said to malign the members of the governing body?

It is true I have been criticizing what they say. I am sure they are not the same as what they say.

The use of the words of a person for good or for bad demonstrates what the person using the words thinks of the originator of them. I believe this. Is this why I am gulity? But the governing body did not originate the words I castigate. The one or ones who did are dead. So in my own way I am warning those men to "quit touching the unclean thing".

 

[savagewind]

I did sign those letters. With a return address too. How else would I have gotten a response from them?

 

[savagewind]

Are people the same as what they say? On forum they're not. In real life are they? Am I my words? If I was an actor I'd be many people. When an actor speaks words are the words they speak the actor, the writer, the producer, the director or all of them? That would be a many headed dragon type. Maybe the words have caught up to me. Which ones you say? Mentally diseased. Am I? If words are a person and people can do harm can words too? Can calling me mentally diseased make me so?

 

[savagewind]

The responsiblity placed on all christians is to preach the good news of the kingdom. The WT organisation is the only christian organisation on earth devoted to helping us fulfill that requirement in harmony with the Bible.

The privilege given to all Christians is to preach the good news of God's Kingdom. Jesus is the only person on earth fully devoted to fulfill God's requirements in harmony with God's Word. In Jesus Christ's name Amen.

 

[savagewind]

The question to the Jehovah's Witnesses is this; Is the govening body men or the men's words? The reason why I ask is I have never verbally attacked the men but have only attacked their words. I have many times been accused of attacking them. Am I suppose to believe they are their words?

 

[Smart_Guy]

You can verbally attack me anytime anyway you want ma'am. I'll gladly take it with a smile

 

[savagewind]

You can verbally attack me anytime anyway you want ma'am. I'll gladly take it with a smile

LOL. I couldn't. Change your picture and I might. But really, I can't. You are so nice!

 

[oldbadger]

Agreed? Please tell us how.

Savage..... he only 'kinda sorta' agreed....

 

[oldbadger]

I did sign those letters. With a return address too. How else would I have gotten a response from them?

Of course you did. It was slightly insulting to pose that question to you.

 

[Smart_Guy]

LOL. I couldn't. Change your picture and I might. But really, I can't. You are so nice!

Then how about physically attacking me? I'll be honored

 

[oldbadger]

You can verbally attack me anytime anyway you want ma'am. I'll gladly take it with a smile

You like abuse!

 

[Smart_Guy]

You like abuse!

By the lllladies

 

[savagewind]

Then how about physically attacking me? I'll be honored

OH! I have seen your picture. Yes, I very nice fantasy! Those eyes! Can I stare at you?

 

[oldbadger]

OH! I have seen your picture. Yes, I very nice fantasy! Those eyes! Can I stare at you?

Savage! Stop chatting up innocent young members!
He's only a baby.......... (Me? Jealous? Never! )

 

[paarsurrey]

I've had it! I need to know how I "speak against" the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses. NOW.

Just tell the JWs that Jesus did not die on the Cross with arguments.
They won't bother you any more.

Regards

 

[Shak34]

All the garbage about JW's posted on the net is just that. Disgruntled people with an axe to grind, making allegations based on one side of a very biased story. Funny how people can make serious judgments about things without the whole story. What if judges in court did that? We will be judged on the basis of how we judge others.

Those who have left us have nowhere to go and nothing to say except to spew the poison that is designed to make them look like innocent victims of those big bad JW's.
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If you truely believe that people leave the organization for no reason but to talk bad about it, then you are deluding yourself. You are right that very one has their own side of the story and usually the truth is somewhere in the middle, meaning the Watchtower Bible and Track Society isn't always the so called innocent party. I would think we can both agree that the society has made many bad choices and some of those choices have badly affected former Jehovah Witnesses. Sometimes to the point that they would want to save other people from having the same pain they went through and they try to do this by speaking out.