Nymphs
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That doesn't sound like love to me -- that sounds like control.
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Your honest-to-goodness feelings on atheists.
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That doesn't sound like love to me -- that sounds like control.
InChrist
Free4ever
Okay, I gave you a frubal...with love.
InChrist
Free4ever
Well, you are entitled to your opinion, but it doesn't sound like control to me. It sounds like real love and real love must be freely expressed.
Really?
I hope you are joking. Or failing that, that you can come back some day and laught over that statement.
InChrist
Free4ever
And why should I be joking?
Nymphs
Well-Known Member
Real love is unconditional. Unconditional love is not what you are explaining.
InChrist
Free4ever
God's love is unconditional. He loves each person no matter what anyone's sins are and He offers forgiveness and an everlasting life of freedom to all who want to spend eternity in His presence and love.
Sabour
Well-Known Member
Well I have many things to say on the subject.
First, I have some admiration. Most of the believers are believers in a religion because that is how they were born. An atheist is thinking.
Second, as a muslim, I feel that it is part of my duty to explain to him Islam for I believe that Quraan is the word of God.
Third, I would respect his stand because it is not my duty to convert him, but it is my duty to tell him the message because I am aware that many atheists are atheists because they didn't find that right religion that would answer their questions.
First, I have some admiration. Most of the believers are believers in a religion because that is how they were born. An atheist is thinking.
Second, as a muslim, I feel that it is part of my duty to explain to him Islam for I believe that Quraan is the word of God.
Third, I would respect his stand because it is not my duty to convert him, but it is my duty to tell him the message because I am aware that many atheists are atheists because they didn't find that right religion that would answer their questions.
Nymphs
Well-Known Member
According to the definition of unconditional, your god's love is not. Sorry to break it to you, but your god's love is dependent on if we keep certain laws.
Atheists are individuals. The only thing they have in common is their atheism. So it depends on the person.
InChrist
Free4ever
Actually, not really at least not the God of the Bible. Have you read the book of Hosea? Throughout that book, the entire history of Israel in the OT and in the NT it is shown that God loves people although they fall short over and over again. Not one person with the exception of Jesus Christ has ever kept the laws to perfection. Do you think God is not aware of this reality about human nature and our tendency to sin and break the laws. God's response and God's way to remedy the situation is love, grace, and forgiveness, not law-keeping. Anyone who responds and receives His love is given eternal life. That is the promise in His Word.
But now the righteousness of God apart from the law is revealed, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, even the righteousness of God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to all and on all who believe. For there is no difference; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus... Romans 3:21-24
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McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
The exact same way I feel about Republicans, Christians, Muslims, Buddhas, Democrats, Homosexuals, Politicians, Lawyers, Prostitutes, Bi-sexuals, Hermaphrodites, African Americans, Germans, Scientists, Satanists, Wiccans, Brazilians, Australians, and {insert group name here}.
You can feel love for this spiritually blind heathen, & I'll take no offense. It beats being despised (which I get from a lot of atheists around here.)
Being an atheist, I smile condescendingly, and carry on.
Not everyone needs a saviour.
Because otherwise I would have to believe that you are serious.
Which by its turn would imply that you truly believe that atheists "need a Savior" simply for being atheists.
That is not a very wise, very respectful or very respectable belief to hold. On the contrary, it seems incredibly arrogant and uninformed - to say nothing of religiously misguided.
Last but not least, it would also mean that you are wasting whatever it is that you are calling "love" in this context in a person that you don't even bother to try to understand, and that has no use for that feeling.
Hopefully we all have better goals to pursue!
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InChrist
Free4ever
Okay...have a frubal, with love.
I don't think one person can tell other people how they should love. Each finds their own way.
InChrist
Free4ever
You feel an identical bias towards all these categories? That's unlikely.