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That is the only Illuminati I have ever heard of also, was short lived and pretty stupid if I recall right.There is (rather was) an Illuminati, long gone now though. Bavarian I think.
That is the only Illuminati I have ever heard of also, was short lived and pretty stupid if I recall right.
Jesuits, the Roman Catholic Church and Freethinking don't go in the same sentenceNot sure what's stupid about free thought, secularism, gender equality, etc but to each his own I guess.
[/FONT]What government educational site is that?
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]Emily Livengood and Lauren Tolles (who created this website) are both nutzygoogenhiems
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]There is no Illuminati, certainly no Luciferian Illuminati[/FONT]
Jesuits, the Roman Catholic Church and Freethinking don't go in the same sentence
What do you think they actually accomplished in their minute existence? Nothing . . . that's what!
Not sure what's stupid about free thought, secularism, gender equality, etc but to each his own I guess.
That is the only Illuminati I have ever heard of also, was short lived and pretty stupid if I recall right.
There is (rather was) an Illuminati, long gone now though. Bavarian I think.
The Illuminati organization seems to be becoming more popular by the day, they seem real enough now.
They seem to be a fully functioning party in the American Government which worships the devil and is
also a part of the Masons, which were apparently the Order of the Knights Templar during the Crusades.
It is unfortunate to find out that the Masons are corrupt.
Also the Government doesn't care if about proof of God.
They do not care.
Jesuits, the Roman Catholic Church and Freethinking don't go in the same sentence
What do you think they actually accomplished in their minute existence? Nothing . . . that's what!
"seem" is the operative word here.The Illuminati organization seems to be becoming more popular by the day, they seem real enough now.
They seem to be a fully functioning party in the American Government which worships the devil and is also a part of the Masons, which were apparently the Order of the Knights Templar during the Crusades.
The Masons are nothing but a Men's Club these daysIt is unfortunate to find out that the Masons are corrupt.
A lightbulb contains the word 'light' as well . . . I suppose that is Luciferian?Whatever makes you sleep at night. And consideriding the name Illuminati translates to some form of "enlightened one", I would say it correlates with Luciferism fairly closely.
Where did you get any connection to any religious group? They make have taken specific disciplines within different religions, but they outwardly oppose(d) organized religion and were even outlawed by the Catholic church as well as the Bavarian government.
"Claimed" . . . I would think the French Revolution had a bit more depth to it than it being a silly little lodge endeavor."The Illuminati were outlawed along with other secret societies by the Bavarian government leadership with the encouragement of the Roman Catholic Church, and permanently disbanded in 1785. In the several years following, the group was vilified by conservative and religious critics who claimed they had regrouped and were responsible for the French Revolution."
I suggest you put up some factual information instead of personal hearsay.I suggest you do some more research, sir.
"seem" is the operative word here.
The Masons are nothing but a Men's Club these days
A lightbulb contains the word 'light' as well . . . I suppose that is Luciferian?
"Claimed" . . . I would think the French Revolution had a bit more depth to it than it being a silly little lodge endeavor.
I suggest you put up some factual information instead of personal hearsay.
Haha the Mason's are old men who like funny costumes. World domination? I hope not.
LMAO . . . have You ever run a secret society? Well I do right now, and you know what, unlike the 'secret' societies you mentioned (which all sought to be known) you will never know this Luciferian Order without digging deep into the bowels of the occult world. That, my friend, is a real Cabal.That is the whole point lol. Have you ever read the history of secret socities in general. The goal of a secret society is to function without the masses knowing that they exist, otherwise they would just be a society. The evidence will, by definition, not exist, or at the least exist in very subtle ways so that people can interpret it in many differnt ways.
It wasn't a Men's club then, it is now.On the lower levels I would agree, but as you progress I would say things get a little more heavy. For example, Crowley, Crowley would not have passed through all the degrees if it was just a "Men's Club".
Lucifer is the key to life itself . . . the DNA within the nuclei of all cells of living creatures contains biophotons or ultraweak proton emissions in other words, light! A dynamic web of light constantly released and absorbed by the DNA connects cells, tissues and organs and serve as the organism's main communication network.Light as in a allegorical reference to knowledge. Although I would argue that all forms of light are essentially "information" or knowledge. Fibre-optic cable transfers photonic energy to present information.
The Freemasons used to be . . . they no longer are.The Mason's are no more than a training ground. They mimic the ceremonies contained within the ancient mysteries, and those already established, pick and choose those who seem to possess the qualities neccesary to be at the top along side them.
The whole "my order is more secretive" thing is silly. That being said, if the Illuminati is supposed to be a secret they've certainly failed.
Well, I certainly didn't intend on a competition thingy . . . I wouldn't have even said what I did if not for the conversation, and even so, you will never know our Order. But this is digressing . . .The whole "my order is more secretive" thing is silly.
Which alone, if anyone understood occultism would know is grounds for . . . "stupid" :thud:Most of the UN-credible Illuminati and Mason documentation insist that these two organizations worship the Judaic/Christian Devil, Lucifer - as well as being a functioning part of the American government.
Agreed 100%Separation of Church and State is also a lie as well as a large party of the US Government body being a Satanic Cult.
LMAO . . . have You ever run a secret society? Well I do right now, and you know what, unlike the 'secret' societies you mentioned (which all sought to be known) you will never know this Luciferian Order without digging deep into the bowels of the occult world. That, my friend, is a real Cabal.
It wasn't a Men's club then, it is now.
Lucifer is the key to life itself . . . the DNA within the nuclei of all cells of living creatures contains biophotons or ultraweak proton emissions in other words, light! A dynamic web of light constantly released and absorbed by the DNA connects cells, tissues and organs and serve as the organism's main communication network.
"Lucifer is on the move inside you and me, chattering between cell and cell, rousing the cohorts of the lifeforce, keeping us alive and wonderful. Every man and woman is a star and now we know we have our own inner light."
IAMTHATIAMNOT
© Herald of the Dawn 2013
The Freemasons used to be . . . they no longer are.
The whole "my order is more secretive" thing is silly. That being said, if the Illuminati is supposed to be a secret they've certainly failed.
I think the idea persists because at some level people are aware that the major powerbrokers of the world ( the wheat cartels, the media cartels, the oil cartels ) are not elected, or nationalist, or religiously aligned.
This means that huge influence on the world is wielded by loose affiliations of the ultrawealthy, and that those people probably form alliances and policy over dinner in a Saudi restaurant, with no need for public announcements or government oversight. Their decisions have major impacts on society, and do not even require the formality of an annual general meeting.
So we know that despite the formal and visible existence of governments and religions, awesome power is in the hands of these people, totally outside the purview of the general public.
This vague, semiconscious recognition finds it's way into the conscious mind as fables and caricatures like 'the Illuminati'.
Most of the UN-credible Illuminati and Mason documentation insist that these two organizations worship
the Judaic/Christian Devil, Lucifer - as well as being a functioning part of the American government.
Separation of Church and State is also a lie as well as a large party of the US Government body being a
Satanic Cult.
Most of you over context each other just to be aggravating, it's hilarious.
Well, I certainly didn't intend on a competition thingy . . . I wouldn't have even said what I did if not for the conversation, and even so, you will never know our Order. But this is digressing . . .
Which alone, if anyone understood occultism would know is grounds for . . . "stupid"
Agreed 100%