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Do you have two different answers for these two questions ?

chinu

chinu
Q1: if you think there's God, than what do you need from him ?
Q2: If you think there isn't any God, than for what do you want him to be ?

If you are having just one common answer to these two questions, than its very much clear that you are more intrested in your needs rather than getting god, or it means that god may exist or not you care only you needs rather than god. Thus.. if you care more your needs rather than god, than why should "He" come infront of you ?

If you are having two different answers for these two questions, than what are they ? :)
 

cottage

Well-Known Member
Q1: if you think there's God, than what do you need from him ?
Q2: If you think there isn't any God, than for what do you want him to be ?

If you are having just one common answer to these two questions, than its very much clear that you are more intrested in your needs rather than getting god, or it means that god may exist or not you care only you needs rather than god. Thus.. if you care more your needs rather than god, than why should "He" come infront of you ?

If you are having two different answers for these two questions, than what are they ? :)

I'm sorry but I can't seem to make head nor tail of what you are saying. The second question is a contradiction in terms. Perhaps you could put your questions in a clearer way?
 

9Westy9

Sceptic, Libertarian, Egalitarian
Premium Member
No one can answer both questions as no one can think there is a god and think there is not a god at the same time

Q2: If you think there isn't any God, than for what do you want him to be ? [/B]

The best (in my biased, subjective opinion) thing/ being imaginable.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Q1: if you think there's God, than what do you need from him ?
Q2: If you think there isn't any God, than for what do you want him to be ?

If you are having just one common answer to these two questions, than its very much clear that you are more intrested in your needs rather than getting god, or it means that god may exist or not you care only you needs rather than god. Thus.. if you care more your needs rather than god, than why should "He" come infront of you ?

If you are having two different answers for these two questions, than what are they ? :)
The way you ask the two questions leads to an interesting question, but it's not the conclusion you state you are more interested in your needs than getting God. You first ask what do "you need". Of course this is going to put it upon your personal desire. But that desire, just because it is from within you, does not necessarily have the self as the object of that desire in the sense of greed and possession. One can have a desire from within them that is not self-facing, even though they personally benefit from it, i.e, the fulfillment of love within them in seeing good in the world. But you conclude any answer to 'what do you need", to be selfish in nature. What if that need is to be fulfilled in God?

There is this hair-breadth line between that 'need' being narcissistic and self-emptying. But both are needs.
 
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chinu

chinu
I just don't want to go to hell, and don't suffer to much as long as i'm alive

Once god appeared infront of one pig and asked; do you want to go with me in heaven ? Said the pig: God i need some time to decide all this with my wife,
Now when pig went to his wife to decide all this, His wife asked; Do god have plenty of dirt, dust, garbage and waste for us to enjoy there in heaven ? :D


Like.. Plenty of dirt, dust, garbage etc.. is no more than hell when it is seen through human eyes, But.. all these things sounds as heaven to these cute little pigs. Similarly.. the life we human spend on this earth is no more than hell when it is seen through God's eyes, But.. all these things sounds as heaven to we humans.


Thus.. before talking about HELL, i think there's need to understand what is HELL ? :)
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
Thus.. before talking about HELL, i think there's need to understand what is HELL ? :)

Yes, that's why i said that i don't want to suffer too much here, because i believe in two hells.

Hell here can also have many forms : ill-treatment, war, famine, deseases, handicap ...
 

chinu

chinu
Yes, that's why i said that i don't want to suffer too much here, because i believe in two hells.

Hell here can also have many forms : ill-treatment, war, famine, deseases, handicap ...
I appreciate your thinking. :)
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Q1: if you think there's God, than what do you need from him ?

Guidance and grace to know him and eventually go to him; guidance and grace to help me in my internal struggles; to learn compassion and love; guidance and grace to see him everywhere.

Q2: If you think there isn't any God, than for what do you want him to be ?
Because I believe in God, I can't answer this truthfully. But if I did not believe in God, I think my answers in #1 would still apply.
 

chinu

chinu
Yes, that's right, I Idon't understand this sentence: "If you think there isn't any God, than for what do you want him to be ? "
Means: You think that there isn't any God, But as we all have needs, so.. what is your need ? :)
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
My answer to both questions is "inapplicable", but I don't think that shows much more than that I am an Atheist.
 
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