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Does God forgive???

En'me

RightBehindEveryoneElse
To the original question, if God exists, then he would not be as petty to take offense or resent our actions. What then, is there to forgive?
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
"Sins vanish automatically by coming into contact with God or they (sins) vanish automatically by experiencing that 'divine connection with God, or contact with a sacred place.' In other words, these sins are responsible for disconnecting us from God or we could say.. the more sins we have, the farther away from God we are.

Going towards God is equal to 'experiencing that divine connection/visiting a sacred place and feeling the connection' and that verily, forgives our sins, since that is God itself also.'

It's not that hard to understand. You just have to read it more carefully, not everyone is as well versed in English, that does not automatically make them a troll. :sarcastic

I agree with Sumit, it's complete nonsense.
 

En'me

RightBehindEveryoneElse
No, it's not complete nonsense. Some lines are confusing, but the gist of the post is: straying away from God is sining/sining means you are away from God, while approaching God means you are gradualy destroying your sins.

Well to me it makes sense anyways. I guess it's a matter of disagreeing. :)
 

chinu

chinu
Here by sin I means wrong deeds, crimes etc. Vedas clearly describes that god does not forgive your bad deeds. You have to pay for what you did.
According to vedas there are three types of deeds, namely: Karma, Vikarma, Akarma.

Vkarma = wrong deeds, crimes etc..
Karma = good deeds.
Akarma = No-deeds, or No-actions, or Sinless.

Yes.. it is right that you have to pay for what you did, If we are doing wrong (Vkarma), we will GET wrong in return, If we are doing good (Karma) we will GET good in return.

Bad deeds(Vkarma) in return, gives us a "Cage made of iron", and good deeds (Karma) in return, gives us a "Cage made of gold".

What is CAGE made of Iron ? its a sorrowful life due to illness, poverty etc..
What is CAGE made of Gold ? its a happy life due to good health, wealth etc..

Now.. what is CAGE ? cage is cage, this cage is ment by this "World" which is away from "Heaven", or "Moksha", or "Salvation".

Now.. what is doing Akarma ?
Moving towards God is known as Akarma, it doesn't make any difference if one is moving towards God by "Singing for him", or "Dancing for him" or "Sitting alone for him", or Prasing him, or doing anything in "His" love.

What is sin ?
Sin is the combination of Karma and Vkarma, or anything which is responsible to bound us in this world, or anything in return gives us a CAGE, gold cage or iron cage it doesn't make any difference.

What is sinless ?
Sinless is equal to Akarma, or moving towards God through any method is becoming sinless. :)
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
What is sin ?
Sin is the combination of Karma and Vkarma, or anything which is responsible to bound us in this world, or anything in return gives us a CAGE, gold cage or iron cage it doesn't make any difference.

No, "sin" has a specifically negative connotation.
 

chinu

chinu
No, "sin" has a specifically negative connotation.
Yes.. sin has a specifically negative connotation, But.. all it depends on the type of person, if the person is intrested in living in this WORLD than only bad deeds sound as sins, But it the person is intrested in "Salvation" or "WORD" than both bad and good deeds sound as sins.

When reading holy scripts ie: bible, vedas or quran etc.. sometime people feel confusion in understanding them properly, and this sin concept is the major reason which create problem in understang them properly because most of people think bad deed are sin and has a negative connotation, whereas for a true spiritual person both good and bad deeds are.. sin and have a negative connotation. :)
 
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Desert Snake

Veteran Member
When reading holy scripts ie: bible, vedas or quran etc.. sometime people feel confusion in understanding them properly, and this sin concept is the major reason which create problem in understang them properly because most of people think bad deed are sin and has a negative connotation, whereas for a true spiritual person both good and bad deeds are.. sin and have a negative connotation. :)

That doesn't address the question in the OP, though, which uses the term "sin" to explicitly refer to 'bad deeds'. Your 'answer' to the OP question is in a way saying the question is moot, whereas if we look at the connotations presented, it's obviously not.
Also, saying that a "true spiritual person" will view 'sin' in this manner is quite inaccurate IMO, as Karma itself certainly doesn't imply sin(only negative).

Basically, instead of addressing the OP you have negated the entire question.
 

Sumit

Sanatana Dharma
According to vedas there are three types of deeds, namely: Karma, Vikarma, Akarma.

Vkarma = wrong deeds, crimes etc..
Karma = good deeds.
Akarma = No-deeds, or No-actions, or Sinless.

Yes.. it is right that you have to pay for what you did, If we are doing wrong (Vkarma), we will GET wrong in return, If we are doing good (Karma) we will GET good in return.

Bad deeds(Vkarma) in return, gives us a "Cage made of iron", and good deeds (Karma) in return, gives us a "Cage made of gold".

What is CAGE made of Iron ? its a sorrowful life due to illness, poverty etc..
What is CAGE made of Gold ? its a happy life due to good health, wealth etc..

Now.. what is CAGE ? cage is cage, this cage is ment by this "World" which is away from "Heaven", or "Moksha", or "Salvation".

Now.. what is doing Akarma ?
Moving towards God is known as Akarma, it doesn't make any difference if one is moving towards God by "Singing for him", or "Dancing for him" or "Sitting alone for him", or Prasing him, or doing anything in "His" love.

What is sin ?
Sin is the combination of Karma and Vkarma, or anything which is responsible to bound us in this world, or anything in return gives us a CAGE, gold cage or iron cage it doesn't make any difference.

What is sinless ?
Sinless is equal to Akarma, or moving towards God through any method is becoming sinless. :)

May I know from where you copied that. In sanskrit sin is called pataka. Wrong deeds are called paapkarmah. And one who perform good deeds(Satkarmah) and keep himself away from wrong deeds (paapkarmah) is anagah or Vipapa (sinless). And what you defined as akarma. None in this word can live in state of Akarma because we are here to perform karma. :)
 

chinu

chinu
None in this word can live in state of Akarma because we are here to perform karma. :)
Anything done for the sake of God, or to know God, is Akarma or Vipapa, We humans are not here not to perfrom karma, we all are here to know "God" or "Reality of life" or "Truth" which is equal to Vipapa, Otherwise we humans are no more than animals. :)
 
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