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Afterlife Exists says Top Scientist

Man of Faith

Well-Known Member
Now that we are getting evidence that there is an afterlife, through NDEs and through interaction with the spirit world, the only questions now is which religion is correct. I know, but do you? :D

"Dr Eben Alexander, a Harvard-educated neurosurgeon... ...says he had heard stories from patients who spoke of outer body experiences but had disregarded them as "wishful thinking" but has reconsidered his opinion"... Afterlife exists says top brain surgeon - Telegraph
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
As evidence goes, it's very thin gruel and essentially worthless, but I'm pleased that it props up your sense of certainty. :)
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'll believe in the afterlife when we can send probes there, & they return with soil samples.
 

mycorrhiza

Well-Known Member
To me it isn't convincing at all, but if it makes you happy then that's good!

If we're going by NDE/OBE stories as evidence, then I would say that the true religion is some kind of universalist syncretistic New Age religion :D.
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Just because a scientist says it is so, does not mean it is.

NDE's have scientific theories for why they happen.

I still don't believe in an afterlife, and even if this DID happen to convince me, it in no way would lead me into believing in a religion
 
Now that we are getting evidence that there is an afterlife, through NDEs and through interaction with the spirit world, the only questions now is which religion is correct. I know, but do you? :D
I have read a number of articles on NDEs and studies of NDEs over the years. None of them provides evidence of an afterlife, no more so than ordinary dreams provide evidence of Candyland.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Now that we are getting evidence that there is an afterlife, through NDEs and through interaction with the spirit world, the only questions now is which religion is correct. I know, but do you? :D

"Dr Eben Alexander, a Harvard-educated neurosurgeon... ...says he had heard stories from patients who spoke of outer body experiences but had disregarded them as "wishful thinking" but has reconsidered his opinion"... Afterlife exists says top brain surgeon - Telegraph
Amazing that you will accept this subjective non-verifiable pseudoscience as "scientific evidence", yet reject objective empirical evidence concerning the natural world.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There have been reports of spirit world contact and "outer body" {sic} experience forever. How does this particular man's experience change anything?

I'm not discounting the possibility of extracorporeal consciousness, life after death, OBE, &al, but without testable, reproducible evidence these reports do not fall within the purview of science. This "top scientist," I suspect, would concur.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
and he is not a "top scientist" he isnt even a scientist. And he isnt dealing with dead people.

wrong on both counts


he is a Dr, who has found the need to start writing about people still alive.
 

arthra

Baha'i
"Now that we are getting evidence that there is an afterlife, through NDEs and through interaction with the spirit world..."

I do find reports about near death experiences very important and had actually interviewed a few patients at a local hospital where I volunteered talk about them.. The NDE changed their lives and they were never the same after that.. They had a new view of death and were no longer afraid...that in itself to me was significant.

As to "interaction with the spirit world" I have some problems...there's too much chicanery and fraud going with mediums and such. Yes people sometimes receive intimations from their loved ones in dreams and visions perhaps. There are too many manipulations and exploitation of people by mediums.

"...which religion is correct. I know, but do you?"

Religion also can be exploited and twisted to suit the ends of the unscrupulous... but I would encourage people to investigate religion and explore for themselves ...there are good values and insights in the rich heritage of world religions and they all have spiritual insight and guidance to offer.
 
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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Now that we are getting evidence that there is an afterlife, through NDEs and through interaction with the spirit world, the only questions now is which religion is correct. I know, but do you? :D

"Dr Eben Alexander, a Harvard-educated neurosurgeon... ...says he had heard stories from patients who spoke of outer body experiences but had disregarded them as "wishful thinking" but has reconsidered his opinion"... Afterlife exists says top brain surgeon - Telegraph
As a big fan of OBE's/NDE's, I'm still not particularly impressed with what the good doctor has to say. What most people do not understand is that even intelligent, well educated people can misunderstand/misrepresent their experiences when pen hits paper. Last time I checked, anecdotal accounts do not evidence make.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Religion also can be exploited and twisted to suit the ends of the unscrupulous...
and by those trying to do what they think is the "right" thing

but I would encourage people to investigate religion and explore for themselves ...
Just remember that it's all speculation... and there are no real authorities.

there are good values and insights in the rich heritage of world religions and they all have spiritual insight and guidance to offer.
Assuming, of course, one has the stomach and intellect to wade through the piles of steaming drivel.
 

Man of Faith

Well-Known Member
As evidence goes, it's very thin gruel and essentially worthless, but I'm pleased that it props up your sense of certainty. :)

Well I've been certain for many years, about 40. And there has been many evidences that confirms my faith and religion, such as the discovery that the universe had a beginning, the lack of evidence for evolution, the relationship that I have with God along with the evidences that we have there there is life after death and that there are spiritual beings that physically interact with us in this life.
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Well I've been certain for many years, about 40. And there has been many evidences that confirms my faith and religion, such as the discovery that the universe had a beginning, the lack of evidence for evolution, the relationship that I have with God along with the evidences that we have there there is life after death and that there are spiritual beings that physically interact with us in this life.

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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
and he is not a "top scientist" he isnt even a scientist. And he isnt dealing with dead people.

wrong on both counts


he is a Dr, who has found the need to start writing about people still alive.
Well doctors are scientists actually. It's a question of weither he's actually engaged in research or not on this.

I agree still.

It seems he's found a venue for writing books and and arranging speaking engagements. Im not under the impression he's actually trying to examine this closer in any laboratory with his peers.
 

Man of Faith

Well-Known Member
If we're going by NDE/OBE stories as evidence, then I would say that the true religion is some kind of universalist syncretistic New Age religion :D.

That's fair, but we don't have to just go by those. If there is an afterlife, then it is possible that there are spiritual beings there besides dead humans, and if that is the case then it would be possible that some of them could be good and some not so good. And if the not so good ones decide that they want to confuse things they could pose as different beings when peoples spirits come and go.

There are many NDEs that report of Jesus, heaven and hell all over the world from a lot of different cultures and religions.
 
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