Neurosurgeon's Seven Day Near Death Experience

[Skwim]

I found the following article quite interesting

To read the rest of the article go HERE

And here is a piece on his experience from the Through the Wormhole program.

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[mycorrhiza]

Pretty cool, but I don't see it as evidence of anything other than that the brain is fantastic and that we have yet to learn everything about it.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Sounds neat. Also sounds like a better afterlife than most claim.

 

[Reptillian]

Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field controls my destiny. - Han Solo

 

[Leonardo]

Sounds more like a naturally induced DMT trip...

 

[ImmortalFlame]

How could it have been the afterlife if he was still... Alive?

 

[Thunderfoot]

Very interesting account. Thanks for posting it.

 

[George-ananda]

I've seen this guy in other places on the internet and as I recall there was a real interesting veridical twist. While out of his body he met a sister (or half-sister) that died but that he didn't know about in his current life. Only much after the event he came across the information on this mysterious person and saw a picture that looked exactly like the person he met during the experience.

My memory is not completely clear on this but it was presented as a startling point that something that could not be explained away as fantasy.

 

[outhouse]

read it yesterday


found it to be fantasy and personal perception

 

[Revoltingest]

I'll let you all know if it ever happens to me.
But even then, I'll question my own judgement in such circumstances.

 

[George-ananda]

read it yesterday


found it to be fantasy and personal perception

To Outhouse and other skeptics;

What do you think about Veridical NDE's. Where the experiencers have knowledge of things they couldn't have learned in any normal way.

Because of this I don't think your opinion can possibly be correct. I think NDE's are strong evidence for continuation of consciousness at death as described by the Hindu and Buddhist masters.

 

[Revoltingest]

To Outhouse and other skeptics;
What do you think about Veridical NDE's. Where the experiencers have knowledge of things they couldn't have learned in any normal way.
Because of this I don't think your opinion can possibly be correct. I think NDE's are strong evidence for continuation of consciousness at death as described by the Hindu and Buddhist masters.

I'm not aware of any repeatable research which would verify it.
I don't trust "masters".

 

[Magic Man]

To Outhouse and other skeptics;

What do you think about Veridical NDE's. Where the experiencers have knowledge of things they couldn't have learned in any normal way.

Because of this I don't think your opinion can possibly be correct. I think NDE's are strong evidence for continuation of consciousness at death as described by the Hindu and Buddhist masters.

Are there any confirmed cases? I'd have to know the details before forming a conclusion.

But how can NDEs be strong evidence for continuation of consciousness at death when the person is not even dead? Isn't it more likely they're just some kind of dream?

 

[Skwim]

Are there any confirmed cases? I'd have to know the details before forming a conclusion.

But how can NDEs be strong evidence for continuation of consciousness at death when the person is not even dead? Isn't it more likely they're just some kind of dream?

According to the author of the piece apparently dreaming was ruled out. "[My] entire cortex—the part of the brain that controls thought and emotion and that in essence makes us human—had shut down."
(from the link in the OP)

 

[Magic Man]

According to the author of the piece apparently dreaming was ruled out. "[My] entire cortex—the part of the brain that controls thought and emotion and that in essence makes us human—had shut down."
(from the link in the OP)

How do they know?

 

[Skwim]

How do they know?

I would imagine that when at sleep and dreaming the cortex shows activity, and when not dreaming the activity is absent. And, of course, the cortex was found to be inactive during his experience.

 

[mycorrhiza]

I would imagine that when at sleep and dreaming the cortex shows activity, and when not dreaming the activity is absent. And, of course, the cortex was found to be inactive during his experience.

We don't really get the full story (unless I didn't read it properly). Perhaps he had his experience between the cortex "turning on" and waking up?

People's memories aren't always reliable either.

 

[George-ananda]

I'm not aware of any repeatable research which would verify it.

Gee there pretty tough scientists in Revoltingstan, you have to die repeatably in the same way before you get any credibility.

 

[Revoltingest]

Gee there pretty tough scientists in Revoltingstan, you have to die repeatably in the same way before you get any credibility.

When we die, we get it right, & succeed the first time.

 

[George-ananda]

Are there any confirmed cases? I'd have to know the details before forming a conclusion.

Lots of cases. try this link www.nderf.org

But how can NDEs be strong evidence for continuation of consciousness at death when the person is not even dead? Isn't it more likely they're just some kind of dream?

It can't be just some kind of dream when the experiencer knows veridical details (things he couldn't have known through normal means).