Does Israel have a "right" to Palestine?

[Jayhawker Soule]

Or ...

Amnesty International: Israel violates human rights ​

 

[FearGod]

Once again you show your ignorance after this has already been pointed out to you.
Israeli Arabs have full Israeli citizenship. They can and DO serve in the Israeli parliament. There is no excuse for your ignorance. Educate yourself about Israel instead of spreading misinformation.

Thank you sir.

 

[Caladan]

Or ...

Amnesty International: Israel violates human rights ​

Are you even on the same discussion as the rest of us? Did you even see what I was responding to, or are you just posting your one liners and links which never address the posts as usual?
FearGod specifically talks about the fact that supposedly Arabs in IN ISRAEL ARE NOT CITIZENS, NOR CAN THEY SERVE IN ISRAELI POLITICS.

WHICH IS OF COURSE FALSE.

So save what little dignity you have left, AND STAY ON TOPIC.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

We can also talk about B'Tselem

or ACRI

or Gisha

ore ...​

 

[Caladan]

We can also talk about B'Tselem

or ACRI

or Gisha

ore ...​

I see you still have no substance of your own. Not surprising. Also not surprising that you refuse to address the ORIGINAL POST that I was responding to.

 

[Flankerl]

the Holy Land when it's under the muslims , all the religions are free to practice their own religions

:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

So save what little dignity you have left, AND STAY ON TOPIC.

So that's what you're doing here? Defending dignity ...

 

[FearGod]

Are you even on the same discussion as the rest of us? Did you even see what I was responding to, or are you just posting your one liners and links which never address the posts as usual?
FearGod specifically talks about the fact that supposedly Arabs in IN ISRAEL ARE NOT CITIZENS, NOR CAN THEY SERVE IN ISRAELI POLITICS.

WHICH IS OF COURSE FALSE.

So save what little dignity you have left, AND STAY ON TOPIC.

is it possible for a palastinian to be the prime miinister of Israel.
That what i said.

 

[Caladan]

is it possible for a palastinian to be the prime miinister of Israel.
That what i said.

More of your words:

Citezinship should be regardless of religion,all should be equali on rights.

Do you acknowledge that there are over 1.5 million Arabs who hold Israeli citizenship?
Do you also acknowledge that Arabs can and do serve in the Israeli parliament or the Israeli supreme court?

 

[jazzymom]

in the Torah , it's mention to the jews and palestines and arabs and other people lived in "Holy Land ".... which mean it's was a multi residences .

the Holy Land when it's under the muslims , all the religions are free to practice their own religions , now their is an abuse and distinction against the residences muslims.

True tolerance is when the government protects all religions right to practice. I see that in the west but not in the middle east, with the exception of Israel where other religions thrive.

 

[-Peacemaker-]

What are the requirements to be PM of Israel?

 

[Caladan]

What are the requirements to be PM of Israel?

You need to get votes. Since Arabs are part of the Israeli parliament or government, there is nothing excluding them from becoming a prime minister if they get enough votes.

 

[FearGod]

You need to get votes. Since Arabs are part of the Israeli parliament or government, there is nothing excluding them from becoming a prime minister if they get enough votes.

Really,i am sure you are just kidding sir.


The Paradox of Ethnicity and Citizenship

Bedouin protestors remain in place opposite the Knesset.​

In every Arab community, and in the five mixed cities where both Jews and Arabs live, de facto discrimination is readily apparent. Israel's 1.37 million Arab citizens vote, pay taxes and speak Hebrew, yet suffer pervasive discrimination, unequal allocation of resources and violation of their legal rights. Housing, education, and income all substantially lag that of the Jewish majority. Only 3 percent of the land in Israel proper is owned by Arabs; permits are rarely granted to Arab families to expand their housing; and most Jewish towns and neighborhoods remain off-limits.

Reference : New Israel Fund - Israeli Arabs and Bedouin Citizens


Israeli Prime Minister: Israel Must Remain a Jews-Only State

 

[Caladan]

Really,i am sure you are just kidding sir.

Do you think its possible for you to stay on topic and argue with the facts, instead of posting videos/links and random paragraphs from other sites?
You have previously claimed that Arabs cannot be Israeli citizens or enter high profile Israeli politics. Are you ready to admit that you were wrong?

 

[-Peacemaker-]

I think when you look at the flag of Israel and how it defines itself it's diificult to create a convincing argument to an outsider that this state is completely unbiased in how they deal with the non Jews. Here's the thing, I just don't see a problem with that if there are no violation of human rights. The Arabs as a people control exponentially more land. Surely there are enough places for them to live. K

edit: Keep in mind the bias I refer to is in regards to who has control/authority in the country.

 

[Caladan]

I think when you look at the flag of Israel and how it defines itself it's diificult to create a convincing argument to an outsider that this state is completely unbiased in how they deal with the non Jews. Here's the thing, I just don't see a problem with that if there are no violation of human rights. The Arabs as a people control exponentially more land. Surely there are enough places for them to live. K

edit: Keep in mind the bias I refer to is in regards to who has control/authority in the country.

Do you feel the same about Sweden?

 

[Caladan]

How about Denmark?
Norway?
Finland?
Greece?
Perhaps the various nations who have a crescent on their flag?
Is it Kosher for these countries to express their Christian or Islamic heritage with crosses or crescents?
Why is it impossible for Israelis to express their Jewish heritage without being called out on it?

 

[-Peacemaker-]

How about Denmark?
Norway?
Finland?
Greece?
Perhaps the various nations who have a crescent on their flag?
Is it Kosher for this countries to express their Christian or Islamic heritage?
Why is it impossible for Israelis to express their Jewish heritage without being called out on it?

I'm not calling out Israel. I'm calling out the people that criticize them for doing so. I'm sincere when I say that they are entiled to a little corner of the world to call their own.

 

[Caladan]

I'm not calling out Israel. I'm calling out the people that criticize them for doing so. I'm sincere when I say that they are entiled to a little corner of the world to call their own.

So what is the issue with Israel celebrating its Jewish heritage on its national flag?
There are numerous European nations who have crosses on their flags, and numerous Islamic nations with a crescent or even verses from the Qur'an on their flags.

 

[jazzymom]

I think when you look at the flag of Israel and how it defines itself it's diificult to create a convincing argument to an outsider that this state is completely unbiased in how they deal with the non Jews. Here's the thing, I just don't see a problem with that if there are no violation of human rights. The Arabs as a people control exponentially more land. Surely there are enough places for them to live. K

edit: Keep in mind the bias I refer to is in regards to who has control/authority in the country.

Many countries have flags with religious symbols.

Flags that incorporate Muslim symbols:

Crescent Moon Symbol - Country Flags Featuring the Crescent Moon Symbol
Religion in national symbols - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And Muslim countries define themselves as being Islamic countries.



Flags that incorporate Christian symbols:

Religion in national symbols - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So why is it problematic for Israel to have the Star of David on their flag? Do any of these other countries that have religious symbols on their flags have the same questions directed at them?
Do Muslim countries with Islamic religious symbols treat non muslims differently? Christian countries?

Are you asking a question of one country and not the others?