Define what it means to be a man. For example, is a man allowed to dance sober? Or hug other guys? Can he enjoy company of women more then men (socially, not sexually)? What exactly does it mean to be a man?
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You have yet not provided a single example of what you mean by womanhood.
I read that you say it will change from society ot society, but by all means, give soceity specific examples, I`ll read them and give my mind, but for wha tyou have put so far I think that not even you are very sure of what you are talking about.
And kids in orphanages are less likely to have friends or have role models for their genders I am sure. But that can be debated after you clarify the point yu are trying to make.
Draka
Wonder Woman
I am a woman. That I would be a woman had been dictated before I was born. I did not need to learn how to be a woman from anyone. What I learned as I grew up, from all my experiences and from all those around me, was the type of woman I wanted to be. How I wanted to act. Who I wanted to be. What made me me.
A person does not need lessons in how to be a man or a woman, they need only someone to guide them in learning what kind of man or woman they want to be in life. Those things need not be taught by someone of the same gender.
Gender issues themselves, when need discussed, have many avenues. From aunts and uncles, grandparents, counselors, friends, parents of friends, and so on and so forth. These things have been handled in this way for many years. Children have been losing parents to death and divorce forever and yet have been able to be raised and figure things out up until now. Why should things suddenly change now?
A person does not need lessons in how to be a man or a woman, they need only someone to guide them in learning what kind of man or woman they want to be in life. Those things need not be taught by someone of the same gender.
Gender issues themselves, when need discussed, have many avenues. From aunts and uncles, grandparents, counselors, friends, parents of friends, and so on and so forth. These things have been handled in this way for many years. Children have been losing parents to death and divorce forever and yet have been able to be raised and figure things out up until now. Why should things suddenly change now?
And I'm still awaiting a response to this http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/3036273-post59.html
What entails teaching a boy to be a man?
What entails teaching a boy to be a man?
Culturally preconceived gender roles.
That's the best I can think of. But personally, I'm at a loss, too.
Culturally preconceived gender roles.
That's the best I can think of. But personally, I'm at a loss, too.
"... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Maybe that? 
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waitasec
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Draka
Wonder Woman
How to hold a beer correctly.
How to perform a proper wedgie.
Don't cry.
How to belch your full name.
How to belch the alphabet.
Don't cry.
How to change a tire.
How to change the oil.
Don't cry.
How to play football.
How to play baseball.
Don't cry.
How to mow the yard.
How to wash the car.
Don't cry.
How to throw a punch.
How to take a punch.
Don't cry.
Did I get it? Was I right?
Trey of Diamonds
Well-Known Member
To be fair, this is only how to raise an American man. And you left off How to avoid hugging other men.
Draka
Wonder Woman
Darn! I knew I forgot something!
I'm a bisexual who was raised by two heterosexual religious parents who chose not to divorce until we were all raised and moved out of the house.
I was never effectively taught how to be a woman. I'm not even sure what that means, even though I know myself to be a woman, and that I love being a woman.
I was never taught that being queer was okay. In fact, all the rhetoric pointed toward heterosexuality as being the norm. I had nowhere to turn to at the time since then being queer was considered reprehensible outside the home, as well.
Heck, I wasn't even taught what a loving egalitarian marital partnership looked like. My parents hated each other because of alcohol addiction. My mom was a classic codependent. My dad struggled with his alcoholism every day.
There are many things that life shows us that parents can't or won't. But I find what is most important in raising children (having raised them with my husband):
- nutrition
- shelter
- education
- medical attention
- the value of community
- practice, practice, practice....with decisions, and with working with the results of these previous decisions
In my opinion, all the rest is commentary. I care as much about who is caring for their children as I am who is teaching them at school.
I was never effectively taught how to be a woman. I'm not even sure what that means, even though I know myself to be a woman, and that I love being a woman.
I was never taught that being queer was okay. In fact, all the rhetoric pointed toward heterosexuality as being the norm. I had nowhere to turn to at the time since then being queer was considered reprehensible outside the home, as well.
Heck, I wasn't even taught what a loving egalitarian marital partnership looked like. My parents hated each other because of alcohol addiction. My mom was a classic codependent. My dad struggled with his alcoholism every day.
There are many things that life shows us that parents can't or won't. But I find what is most important in raising children (having raised them with my husband):
- nutrition
- shelter
- education
- medical attention
- the value of community
- practice, practice, practice....with decisions, and with working with the results of these previous decisions
In my opinion, all the rest is commentary. I care as much about who is caring for their children as I am who is teaching them at school.
Draka
Wonder Woman
"... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Maybe that?
Much love for Roddy.
Trey of Diamonds
Well-Known Member
Culturally preconceived gender roles.
That's the best I can think of. But personally, I'm at a loss, too.
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Considering the amount of "Dont cry" I get the feeling we guys are a really sad lot
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"... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Maybe that?
Mmmm... woof! :drool: I can even overlook the mullet!
My daddy didn't teach me any of those things! That's why I'm gay. :sad4:
That's done by the shoulder to shoulder bump. No homo.
You forgot that men also have to learn how to NOT appear gay. Because as everyone knows, appearing gay is the worst thing in the world :sarcastic.
Boring. I prefer to hug. And I dont care if it makes me appear gay
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