jasonwill2
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-*many quotes about Satan*-
Ok I wanted to respond to many things, but this line of talk is the one I will go most into. As for Einstein, he was a panentheist.
NOW, ON TO YOU SILLY CHRISTIANS, MUAHAHA! :fork:
Before, I start, I want to say a few words... from the Satanic Bible.
Don't believe me? Here is a breakdown of the "evil" of Satan. Compared to your god, he's a much nicer guy: Satan and "Evil" in Christianity
YAHWEH IS A GOD OF EVIL, WHO ONLY HAS US TO "GLORIFY" HIM. SATAN IS A GOD OF MAN, WHO WANTS TO MAKE US HIS PEERS!
And you are right about that unforgivable sin in those verses. I would know; I used to be a Christian and I wanted to cut the metaphysical bond with your god just in case. This stuff is real: The ultimate rite of blasphemy for ex-Christians: Renunciation of the Trinity
And your Bible does not say that he wants man to "worship" him, it only says that he wants to lead people away from Christ. But given how evil I think your god is, I think that is a right and just thing to do; to de-convert people to no particular faith through education.
Your lies about Satan (properly Ha-Satan) is sickening to me. Ha-Satan is ancient Hebrew for "The Accuser". Satan was a freakin' pronoun, used to mean "accuser, one who opposes, adversary". Ha-Satan was supposedly an angel in your god's court, not an evil entity. He was testing Job as (supposedly) according to Yahweh's will.
If your god is love, and hate and hell is being separated from him, then I want every single person to ever live on this earth to be filled with evil and sin, and go to "hell".
There is no Hell:
Oddly enough, on the scapegoat thing...
Ok I wanted to respond to many things, but this line of talk is the one I will go most into. As for Einstein, he was a panentheist.
NOW, ON TO YOU SILLY CHRISTIANS, MUAHAHA! :fork:
Before, I start, I want to say a few words... from the Satanic Bible.
The Book of Satan
The pulpit-pounders of the past have been free to define "good" and "evil" as they see fit, and have gladly smashed into oblivion any who disagree with their lies - both verbally and, at times, physically. Their talk of "charity", when applied to His Infernal Majesty, becomes an empty sham - and most unfairly, too, considering the obvious fact that without their Satanic foe their very religions would collapse. How sad, that the allegorical personage most responsible for the success of spiritual religions is shown the least amount of charity and the most consistent abuse - and by those who most unctuously preach the rules of fair play! For all the centuries of shouting-down the Devil has received, he has never shouted back at his detractors. He has remained the gentleman at all times, while those he supports rant and rave. He has shown himself to be a model of deportment, but now he feels it is time to shout back...
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5. Too long right and wrong, good and evil have been inverted by false prophets!
6. No creed must be accepted upon authority of a "divine" nature. Religions must be put to the question. No moral dogma must be taken for granted - no standard of measurement deified. There is nothing inherently sacred about moral codes. Like the wooden idols of long ago, they are the work of human hands, and what man has made, man can destroy!
7. He that is slow to believe anything and everything is of great understanding, for belief in one false principle is the beginning of all unwisdom.
The Book of Lucifer
The truth alone has never set anyone free. It is only DOUBT which will bring mental emancipation. Without the wonderful element of doubt, the doorway through which truth passes would be tightly shut, impervious to the most strenuous poundings of a thousand Lucifers. How understandable that Holy Scripture should refer to the Infernal monarch as the "father of lies" - a magnificent example of character inversion. If one is to believe this theological accusation that the Devil represents falsehood, then it surely must be concurred that it was HE, NOT GOD, THAT ESTABLISHED ALL SPIRITUAL RELIGIONS AND WHO WROTE ALL OF THE HOLY BIBLES!
Satan is not "evil", and he does not want a bunch of worship. The ONLY person he ever asked in the Bible to worship him was Jesus. Your god has ordered animal sacrifices, stoning of mouthy kids and propagated misogyny and homophobia for hundreds of years.Wanted! God, Dead or Alive (Book of Lucifer)
Anyone who thinks of Satan as evil should consider all the men, women, children, and animals who have died because it was "God's will". Certainly a person grieving the untimely loss of a loved one whould much rather have their loved one with them than in God's hands! Instead, they are unctuously consoled by their clergyman who says, "It was God's will, my dear"; or "He is in God's hands now, my son." Such phrases have been a convenient way for religionists to condone or excuse the mercilessness of God. But if God is in complete control and as benign as he is supposed to be, why does He allow these things to happen? Too long have religionists been falling back on their bibles and rulebooks to prove or disprove, justify, condemn, or interpret. The Satanist realizes that man, and the action and reaction of the universe, is responsible for everything, and doesn't mislead himself into thinking that someone cares. No longer will we sit back and accept "fate" without doing anything about it, just because it says so in Chapter such and such, Psalm so and so - and that's that!
Don't believe me? Here is a breakdown of the "evil" of Satan. Compared to your god, he's a much nicer guy: Satan and "Evil" in Christianity
YAHWEH IS A GOD OF EVIL, WHO ONLY HAS US TO "GLORIFY" HIM. SATAN IS A GOD OF MAN, WHO WANTS TO MAKE US HIS PEERS!
And you are right about that unforgivable sin in those verses. I would know; I used to be a Christian and I wanted to cut the metaphysical bond with your god just in case. This stuff is real: The ultimate rite of blasphemy for ex-Christians: Renunciation of the Trinity
And your Bible does not say that he wants man to "worship" him, it only says that he wants to lead people away from Christ. But given how evil I think your god is, I think that is a right and just thing to do; to de-convert people to no particular faith through education.
Your lies about Satan (properly Ha-Satan) is sickening to me. Ha-Satan is ancient Hebrew for "The Accuser". Satan was a freakin' pronoun, used to mean "accuser, one who opposes, adversary". Ha-Satan was supposedly an angel in your god's court, not an evil entity. He was testing Job as (supposedly) according to Yahweh's will.
If your god is love, and hate and hell is being separated from him, then I want every single person to ever live on this earth to be filled with evil and sin, and go to "hell".
There is no Hell:
Though I believe there is a place called "Heaven" where all of you will end up as slaves to your god. He says he loves us, he says that he IS love. Well I'll tell you, your god is anything but love. He is an egotistical narcissist who loves blood being spilled! He DEMANDED that innocent animals be slaughtered for forgiveness, and HE LET HIS OWN SON DIE! What kind of god requires blood to be spilled so that we may be forgiven? We have no choice to sin or not, we will sin no matter what; we were born into sin. We have to sin just to survive!The Book of Satan
There is no heaven of glory bright, and no hell where sinners roast. Here and now is our day of torment! Here and now is our day of joy! Here and now is our opportunity!Choose ye this day, this hour, for no redeemer liveth!
Hell, The Devil, and How to Sell your Soul (Book of Lucifer)
The false doctrine of Hell and the Devil has allowed the Protestant and Catholic Churches to flourish far too long. Without a devil to point their fingers at, religionists of the right hand path would have nothing with which to threaten their followers. "Satan leads you to temptation"; "Satan is the prince of evil"; "Satan is vicious, cruel, brutal," they warn. "If you give in to the temptations of the devil, you will surely suffer eternal damnation and roast in Hell."
The semantic meaning of Satan is the "adversary" or "opposition" or the "accuser". The very word "devil" comes from the Indian devi which means "god". Satan represents opposition to all religions which serve to frustrate and condemn man for his natural instincts. He has been given an evil role simply because he represents the carnal, earthly, and mundane aspects of life.
Also, I can't seem to find the part in there that says this, but basically the Christian Church formulated the sins to be things we all have to do to survive, so that we all sin, and so that we all need forgiven. A nice bed of lies if I may so myself. People need to stop using Satan as a scapegoat. Historically he has never been given the amount of power he is today; he used to be an easily fooled bafoon; he used to not have horns or be a goat, that was a perversion of the ancient god Pan. He is not Lucifer (Satanist source: Satan, "ha-satan," Lucifer, and the Nephilim Christian source: Lucifer is not Satan), and he is NOT EVIL!Love and Hate (Book of Lucifer)
There has never been a great "love" movement in the history of the world that hasn't wound up killing countless numbers of people, we must assume, to prove how much they loved them! Every hypocrite who ever walked the earth has had pockets buldging with love!
Oddly enough, on the scapegoat thing...
IN NOMINE SATANA! SHEMHAMFORASH! AVE SATANA!Hell, The Devil, and How to Sell your Soul (Book of Lucifer)Satan, the chief devil of the Western World, was originally an angel whose duty was to report human delinquencies to God. It was not until the Fourteenth Century that he began to be depicted as an evil deity who was part man and part animal, with goat-like horns and hooves...
[I should note that for hundreds of years before that Satan was depicted as evil, but not with the animal traits. LaVey here is talking specifically about the animal traits here that were once Pan's]
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The association of the goat with the Devil is found in the Christian Bible, where the holiest day of the year, the Day of Atonement, was celebrated by casting lots for two goats "without blemish", one to be offered to the Lord, and one to Azazel. The goat carrying the sins of the people was driven into the desert and became a "scapegoat". This is the origin of the goat which is still used in lodge ceremonies today as it was also used in Egypt, where once a year it was sacrificed to a God.